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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:42 am
Dude, you better get emotionally prepared. Fast.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:16 am
I think the chances are higher we trade for KD without Ayton, Mikal, or Cam J than we let Ayton walk for nothing. You guys are crazy if you think we’re letting Ayton walk for nothing.
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by Mori Chu » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
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by Cap » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:23 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:16 am
I think the chances are higher we trade for KD without Ayton, Mikal, or Cam J than we let Ayton walk for nothing.
Prepare yourselves: the Nets are getting Al McCoy and the Gorilla.
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by TOO » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:24 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
What's the alternative? Much like the Nets, the Suns are kind of painted into a corner.
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:47 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:24 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
What's the alternative? Much like the Nets, the Suns are kind of painted into a corner.
Has he demanded a trade? Has he said he wants out? We don’t know that.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Lol…there’s been much much worse trades and you’re convinced we’re letting him walk for nothing. Turner and a 1st is better than nothing, right?
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by TOO » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:47 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:24 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
What's the alternative? Much like the Nets, the Suns are kind of painted into a corner.
Has he demanded a trade? Has he said he wants out? We don’t know that.
He demanded the max, Suns dont value him at that, its not exactly the same, but there isnt much wiggle room there.
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by TOO » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:06 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Lol…there’s been much much worse trades and you’re convinced we’re letting him walk for nothing. Turner and a 1st is better than nothing, right?
No. A 1st that Jones will throw away and Turner who the Suns don’t even like and is an unrestricted free agent next summer? It is exactly nothing.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:12 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:32 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:06 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Lol…there’s been much much worse trades and you’re convinced we’re letting him walk for nothing. Turner and a 1st is better than nothing, right?
No. A 1st that Jones will throw away and Turner who the Suns don’t even like and is an unrestricted free agent next summer? It is exactly nothing.
That we’re gonna throw away for KD?
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:41 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:12 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:20 am
FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.
So worse than trading for Brandon Knight? James Jones has made worse trades, remember Josh Jackson, Melton, and 2 2nds for Jevon Carter?
Remember IT for a late 1st and then IT became an mvp candidate? How about Bogdonavic and 2 1sts for Chriss?
Your Ayton obsession is blinding you.
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by virtual9mm » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:46 am
What's up with Suns fans being ok with trades that would be akin to us chopping our own balls off? Be a hard ass, match any offer sheet, and go from there.
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by Vladimir_Taltos » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:57 am
virtual9mm wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:46 am
What's up with Suns fans being ok with trades that would be akin to us chopping our own balls off? Be a hard ass, match any offer sheet, and go from there.
Doncic 230 lbs
Ayton has 4" and 20 lbs on him...
...who dominated who in the paint in the playoffs? So...max player? Really?
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:07 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:41 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:12 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:30 am
I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.
So worse than trading for Brandon Knight?
James Jones has made worse trades, remember Josh Jackson, Melton, and 2 2nds for Jevon Carter?
Remember IT for a late 1st and then IT became an mvp candidate? How about Bogdonavic and 2 1sts for Chriss?
Your Ayton obsession is blinding you.
Wait, what?
How could you put that one anywhere near the same level, much less worse??
And none of the players we gave up in those trades were as good as Ayton.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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by Split T » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:15 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:07 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:41 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:12 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:46 am
Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.
So worse than trading for Brandon Knight?
James Jones has made worse trades, remember Josh Jackson, Melton, and 2 2nds for Jevon Carter?
Remember IT for a late 1st and then IT became an mvp candidate? How about Bogdonavic and 2 1sts for Chriss?
Your Ayton obsession is blinding you.
Wait, what?
How could you put that one anywhere near the same level, much less worse??
And none of the players we gave up in those trades were as good as Ayton.
Because we literally gave up assets for nothing. Ya it’s a smaller scale, but Myles Turner is a legitimate nba starter. You’re acting like he’s garbage.
And IT was absolutely better than Ayton. He finished 5th in mvp, was All-NBA 2nd team and we dumped him for a late 1st. We’d have to trade Ayton for a 2nd for it to be comparable.
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by JeremyG » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:18 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:15 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:07 am
Split T wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:41 am
JeremyG wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:12 am
TOO wrote: ↑ Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:51 am
Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?
Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.
So worse than trading for Brandon Knight?
James Jones has made worse trades, remember Josh Jackson, Melton, and 2 2nds for Jevon Carter?
Remember IT for a late 1st and then IT became an mvp candidate? How about Bogdonavic and 2 1sts for Chriss?
Your Ayton obsession is blinding you.
Wait, what?
How could you put that one anywhere near the same level, much less worse??
And none of the players we gave up in those trades were as good as Ayton.
Because we literally gave up assets for nothing. Ya it’s a smaller scale, but Myles Turner is a legitimate nba starter. You’re acting like he’s garbage.
And IT was absolutely better than Ayton. He finished 5th in mvp, was All-NBA 2nd team and we dumped him for a late 1st. We’d have to trade Ayton for a 2nd for it to be comparable.
Turner is an expiring contract, likely to walk next summer.
As for IT, that was one season. And when we traded him he was a worse player than Ayton is. You can't compare apples to oranges. Ayton could become 5th in MVP voting too for all you know.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.