2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

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I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.

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Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 am
I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.
Ugh, please no.

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Why are you opposed to that?

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I think that's a terrible defensive configuration. Gordon is strong, but he is also slowing and short. Beal isn't a plus defender. Book has made huge strides as a defender, but I don't want him to be the best defender among our 1-3 starters. I think that is an Anti-Vogel lineup.

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INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:18 am
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 am
I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.
Ugh, please no.
Dragic starting at SF.

But I would welcome EG as a sixth man, the guard lineup would be solid.

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INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:30 am
I think that's a terrible defensive configuration. Gordon is strong, but he is also slowing and short. Beal isn't a plus defender. Book has made huge strides as a defender, but I don't want him to be the best defender among our 1-3 starters. I think that is an Anti-Vogel lineup.
Are you wanting more of a pg defender or another big? I guess my question is are you wanting Book/Beal at the 1/2 or 2/3?

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I think Book, Beal and KD will bring the ball up at different times and initiate the offense, like they did in the playoffs.

I still think we need to add another PG though.

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Funny enough, I think the ideal fit with this new star-studded lineup would be Rubio if he can fully make it back from the ACL injury. Solid defender, elite distributor, won't be needed to score much, but can keep a defense honest

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Ayton for Allen and Rubio

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INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:43 am
Capela just doesn't do it for me. It never seems like he is a plus in the playoffs. He looks ok on paper, but just comes across as an overpriced mid-level big.

And I agree with JNix: Hunter isn't impressive. I know 'bazz likes him. I liked him as a draft prospect, but so far I feel like he has been a mediocre pro who was financially rewarded based on potential and not based on actually being established as an impact player. Him and Capela combined feel like $40 million that could be better used elsewhere.

If ATL is hanging on to Griffin and Okongwu in any deal, then I am not motivated to send them Ayton. I like Jalen Johnson, Bruno Fernando, and Bogdanovic, but I am just not interested in taking on any of their other pricey veterans.
I don’t love Hunter. His advanced D stats are rough and he can’t stay healthy. I just think he’d be a HUGE upgrade from whomever we’re currently looking at as a 5th starter. And I think he fits very well next to our big 3 line Shel said.
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ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:34 am
Gallo and/or Prince would be really good signings for us. Gallo's really become a plodder these days but would give us a nice shooting forward. Prince would give us that 3/4 defensive player. Plus he's a Baylor guy and we seem to love them. Fischer's article also mentions DDV as a target for the Knicks joining up with Brunson and Hart from Villanova (plus Mikal in BK)

Prince would be a great fit.
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BigLewy wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:34 am
Funny enough, I think the ideal fit with this new star-studded lineup would be Rubio if he can fully make it back from the ACL injury. Solid defender, elite distributor, won't be needed to score much, but can keep a defense honest
I think we may have a better version of that today in Jordan Goodwin.
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That Mavs trade was ass though. Not even close to decent value for Ayton.
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Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:40 am
Ayton for Allen and Rubio
This Allen? https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... c_playoffs
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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That’s the one

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Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:55 pm
Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.
Allen is 6th in TS% though ;)

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:55 pm
Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.
Besides this last one you mean?

Ayton was 13/10 with a .553 TS%, .047 WS/48 and a -3.5 BPM. -4.2 on/off rating.

Allen was 9/7 with a .608 TS%, .150 WS/48 and a 2.4 BPM. -3.5 on/off rating.

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Allen's a good regular season big but he got manhandled by the Knicks frontcourt in the playoffs.

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Kinda like Ayton got manhandled by the Clippers bigs

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