One of the main things I see is how confident Book and KD are to get Nurk the ball and run offense through him. Even with his sub-par finishing around the rim, they trust him to make the right decision. It’s a stark contrast.
Nurk is proving a much better fit so far. But I think we need to see him get through most of the season healthy before we can declare victory completely.
Nurk is proving a much better fit so far. But I think we need to see him get through most of the season healthy before we can declare victory completely.
I don't think so. Even if we loses him/allen for some period of time, they both givea us more than Max C.
One of the main things I see is how confident Book and KD are to get Nurk the ball and run offense through him. Even with his sub-par finishing around the rim, they trust him to make the right decision. It’s a stark contrast.
I thought the excuse was they didn’t want to pass him the ball because he might miss a layup? But Nurk’s missed layups are the “right decision”? His FG% (.468) is atrocious for a 7-footer.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
Is it time to declare this debate over. Mr Max will never get another max deal. That talk about averaging 25/10 was silly.
I don't think so. He has the physical gifts to do so. Just not the drive and determination. That's why it was always tantalizing but now most of us see that that will never change.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
Yeah, at the end of the day Ayton is one of the worst of the top prospects from his draft. Luka, JJJ, even Trae Young all better. Only Bagley is clearly worse.
One of the main things I see is how confident Book and KD are to get Nurk the ball and run offense through him. Even with his sub-par finishing around the rim, they trust him to make the right decision. It’s a stark contrast.
I thought the excuse was they didn’t want to pass him the ball because he might miss a layup? But Nurk’s missed layups are the “right decision”? His FG% (.468) is atrocious for a 7-footer.
I don’t only mean passing to him on the roll or under the basket. I mean getting him the ball in general where he can do many more things with it than Ayton. Even if Ayton is a better finisher at the rim, it’s not binary with Nurk.
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Another fun "what if" is if we had drafted JJJ #1. We had no answers for him last night. He and Book could have been lethal.
I think JJJ is better than Ayton, but this season seems to be illustrating that it's not by as much as I previously thought. We'd probably be complaining about JJJ's inability to avoid foul trouble in the same way we did about Ayton's inability to play hard more than once a week on average.
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One of the main things I see is how confident Book and KD are to get Nurk the ball and run offense through him. Even with his sub-par finishing around the rim, they trust him to make the right decision. It’s a stark contrast.
I thought the excuse was they didn’t want to pass him the ball because he might miss a layup? But Nurk’s missed layups are the “right decision”? His FG% (.468) is atrocious for a 7-footer.
They loved to get him the ball if he was near the rim…it was in the short roll that Ayton caused the offense to come to a screeching halt with the ball.
Nurk is quite a bit worse as a finisher than Ayton, you’re not going to find people arguing otherwise. That’s not what this debate is about. However, he’s been quite a bit better after a pretty poor start…Since Book came back he’s 55/106 which is 52% and if you take out 3s, he’s 49/85 which is 58%…or 1% lower than Ayton.
Another fun "what if" is if we had drafted JJJ #1. We had no answers for him last night. He and Book could have been lethal.
I think JJJ is better than Ayton, but this season seems to be illustrating that it's not by as much as I previously thought. We'd probably be complaining about JJJ's inability to avoid foul trouble in the same way we did about Ayton's inability to play hard more than once a week on average.
JJJ just can’t really handle being a 5 full-time. He’s an elite defender when he can just lurk near the rim and help on drives. He’s a skilled, but inconsistent, offensive player.
