I don't think I like how they are bringing in people from BB so fast. Mike is one thing, and it worked. But Tuco at the end seemed like a gimmicky hook. He was walts first major threat, and here he is with a gun in sauls face right out of the gate?
Don't get me wrong... I love a little crazy ass tuco action. But I do not want this to be a big cameo fest. There are a lot of characters from BB they could have used here that would not have come across as a little desperate for early ratings. A younger Hector, before his wheelchair, one of the cousins, or, you know, someone just new?
For the record, when I first saw it, I was psyched. But the doubt hit almost instantly. I don't actually think there's much to worry about, and Iron forward to the rest of the show.
I don't think I like how they are bringing in people from BB so fast. Mike is one thing, and it worked. But Tuco at the end seemed like a gimmicky hook. He was walts first major threat, and here he is with a gun in sauls face right out of the gate?
Don't get me wrong... I love a little crazy ass tuco action. But I do not want this to be a big cameo fest. There are a lot of characters from BB they could have used here that would not have come across as a little desperate for early ratings. A younger Hector, before his wheelchair, one of the cousins, or, you know, someone just new?
For the record, when I first saw it, I was psyched. But the doubt hit almost instantly. I don't actually think there's much to worry about, and Iron forward to the rest of the show.
Younger, at least. Does anyone know how long before BB this show takes place?
I'm curious (and hoping for no reason) how they approach Fring. Because in BB, Saul doesn't work with him directly...he "knows a guy [Mike] who knows a guy [Gus]. So, in reality he should never be in the show, except possibly in cameos if Saul is eating some chicken.
Ugh, I hope all of this speculation is for nothing. Make it a truly new story. There is certainly enough material in Saul's story to fill a series without having to lean on BB cameos.
carey wrote:Haven't seen it yet but the constant comparisons to BB will probably kill it. Unfair as that may be
Totally unfair, but an accurate assessment. It would be like trying to remake the Joker in the Dark Knight era Batman after Heath Ledger's death. No matter how well someone played him, there would be no getting past the comparisons. The writers need to be extremely careful to make sure this is a unique story, and not just a prelude, if they want to have a successful show. I actually think they can do it, but I am personally already guilty of falling into the exact trap I fear, so they have their work cut out for them.
I liked the first two episodes of Saul a lot. I do hope that they don't rely too much on retreads from Breaking Bad. The characters are supposed to be younger, but they all look ten years older (because they are).
For those of you who are Walking Dead fans and @midnight fans, I would avoid the most recent episode of @midnight where they had a couple of cast members with the creator of the comic Robert Kirkman because he totally spoiled a huge moment from the comics that might very well happen on the show. I thought it was hilarious but I read that issue already, I would image not everybody would have my same reaction though.
Wally_West wrote:For those of you who are Walking Dead fans and @midnight fans, I would avoid the most recent episode of @midnight where they had a couple of cast members with the creator of the comic Robert Kirkman because he totally spoiled a huge moment from the comics that might very well happen on the show. I thought it was hilarious but I read that issue already, I would image not everybody would have my same reaction though.
Okay, so wife and I binge-watched Bosch yesterday. Our thoughts:
a) There's a pretty obvious comparison to True Detective because of the police procedural aspect and the non-standard origin of the series. Wifey liked it better than TD because as she says, "TD made her feel greasy." I liked each about the same although I think the atmosphere in TD was far superior because Los Angeles is kind of cliche at this point in regards to cop shows.
b) The characterization was just okay. The show runs with a couple of stories from the middle of the series, so there's a lot of backstory that we didn't get. Certain characters act in certain ways that could be regarded as caricatures without knowing what came before for them to act that way.
c) All in all I liked it quite a bit. They did a good job taking the stories from the novels and making it relatively seamless. Knowing what comes next I'm excited for S2. It would be awesome if they could somehow get a certain Lincoln Lawyer to feature in a few episodes as Harry's long-lost half brother. (Not really a spoiler as they've started hyping it heavily in the books as the next one will see a true team-up.)
Indy wrote:I still haven't watched Saul. I really want to, but I just haven't had the chance yet.
You really need to watch it. I refuse to compare it to Breaking Bad, because it's a very different show. But the writing is absolutely on par.
I imagine that when BB was winding up, with a fixed time limit that AMC was probably screaming to extend, and Vince Gilligan was resolutely saying "NO, this is how it ends," the idea of a spinoff to bilk a few hundred billion out of the fans was the impetus. But this show is NOT just a Breaking Bad spinoff. Or even a BB prequel. It is its own story, and so far, it's exceptionally good. I (no longer) have any reason to doubt that this will continue throughout the series.