Suns 2015 Trade Deadline Aftermath

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i hope we pick up Thomas Robinson after Denver buys him out, dude has crazy PF potential
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Actually he doesn't have much potential at all. He really doesn't have a good feel for the game, size bothers him on the interior, and he doesn't offer much defensively. He does rebound well though.

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Trivia (no cheating): Name the top 3 current Suns in PER.

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Bleds, Keef, and Knight?
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Cap wrote:Bleds, Keef, and Knight?
As of yesterday. Only counting games played for PHX.

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Shabazz wrote:
Cap wrote:Bleds, Keef, and Knight?
As of yesterday. Only counting games played for PHX.
Wright is always up there because he only takes shots about 5 feet from the basket. I'm going to guess because we're talking about it that Goodwin is on the list? Also Markieff. I forget what's in PER but if turnovers are in it I'm not sure how Eric could be included.
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Shabazz wrote:Trivia (no cheating): Name the top 3 current Suns in PER.
Len, Tucker, and Brandon Wright.

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Wright, Len and Keef. But I'm not counting anyone that hasn't played 500 minutes yet.

If we are only including games as Suns then I drop BW and add Marcus.

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Wright, Bledsoe and Goodwin
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#2 and #3 flipped last night, so the answer currently is:

1. Bledsoe - 19.7
2. Goodwing - 17.7
3. Wright - 17.4

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I think if Goodwin develops a reliable outside shot he's got All-Star potential. Unfortunately we haven't seen any indication of that from him yet.
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People are too fixated on his outside shot. He already does some impressive things for a 20 year old. Getting to the line is a very important NBA skill.

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Shabazz wrote:People are too fixated on his outside shot. He already does some impressive things for a 20 year old. Getting to the line is a very important NBA skill.
He's got great athleticism and yes, he does some very impressive things - but he'll need a reliable shot if he's going to realize his full potential.

Anyway, I say they have to give him minutes. The Suns aren't going anywhere this year and they need to invest playing time in Goodwin, Warren and Len.
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Can't believe Marcus Morris is our best 3 point shooter at 40% as of last night.
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carey wrote:Can't believe Marcus Morris is our best 3 point shooter at 40% as of last night.
Knight shot 1-5 last night, but he's shooting .405 on the season.
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Shabazz wrote:People are too fixated on his outside shot. He already does some impressive things for a 20 year old. Getting to the line is a very important NBA skill.
His shooting is very important. If he never develops a good or at least decent shot, it dramatically lowers his ceiling as an NBA player. The league has plenty of guys who can pound the ball and charge into a defender. It needs more guys who can do that, plus shoot, plus find the open man with a pass if needed. I don't want to commit long-term or big-money to a guy like Archie if he's just going to plow into defenders every time on offense.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Shabazz wrote:People are too fixated on his outside shot. He already does some impressive things for a 20 year old. Getting to the line is a very important NBA skill.
His shooting is very important. If he never develops a good or at least decent shot, it dramatically lowers his ceiling as an NBA player. The league has plenty of guys who can pound the ball and charge into a defender. It needs more guys who can do that, plus shoot, plus find the open man with a pass if needed. I don't want to commit long-term or big-money to a guy like Archie if he's just going to plow into defenders every time on offense.
You watch the last 2 games Mori? That isn't what he's doing at all.
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Yea he's got great body control and footwork to step around defenders and finish in the lane.

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For all the kvetching about Goodwin's shot, he's 9-14 in the past two games.
At least he makes the shots he does take; shot selection is important, also.

Archie has stepped up his game with the extra minutes.
He's not the problem.
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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I saw the second half of both games. I liked what I saw from Archie a lot, don't get me wrong; he had good handles, got into the lane, penetrated well, finished pretty well, and just generally looked confident and looked like he belonged out there. All of that was very good. I just also hope that he will work on becoming a better outside shooter because that would be huge for his game and for his career.

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