Game Day (Early start!): Suns (21-20) @ Cavs (35-6), Mon 1/20/25

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I just love iso ball contested midrangers. Every other team generates easy looks except us

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ITHE Parasite GOT HIS THOUGHHHHH

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ShelC wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:31 pm
Let's how these 2 minutes go until halftime. Suns will either hang tough or let go of the rope.
Did not totally go off the rails but almost. The Cavs are playing with an intensity two tiers above us, all their players hustle a lot and they know what they have to do on offense. Have they even commited a single TO? Plus, they are making their shots. Very hard to keep up with this.

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SunsSince92 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:38 pm
Dunn is a liability on offence.
So is Plumlee, so is O'Nealle, so is Oso.

You have to play somebody though. They just have to learn how to contribute in oither ways when they're on the court.
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specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:40 pm
I just love iso ball contested midrangers. Every other team generates easy looks except us
Killing time just dribbling out between the circles isn't the secret to success I guess.
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All four guards are trash defensively.

Book can be decent when he locks in, which he only does for the Olympics and playoffs, very rarely during regular season.

Beal can be decent only when he wants to, which he doesn’t want too very often, especially right now with the trade stuff and ankle injury.

Grazin’ and Tyus are both trash tbh. Tyus is small and Allen often gets lost, is late to switch, late to put a hand up.


One of these guys needs to be upgraded to a positive defender… enter the Beal for Jimmy swap. MIL gonna love and Dame and Beal. Hell yeah.

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Offense is back to being stagnant. Walk the ball up and stand right over halfcourt and wait for a screen while everyone watches. We have 3 of the best midrange shooters but can't find the soft spots in the zone for midrange jumpers. Garland's killing us but we can't do anything about it. Thought Monte might be a good matchup but Beal's back so Monte's out. No Oso because KD is playing small ball 5 when Oso is probably a smart and skilled enough passer to break up that zone. If we played faster, they wouldn't be able to get set in a zone but we crawl the ball upcourt.

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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:44 pm
All four guards are trash defensively.

Book can be decent when he locks in, which he only does for the Olympics and playoffs, very rarely during regular season.

Beal can be decent only when he wants to, which he doesn’t want too very often, especially right now with the trade stuff and ankle injury.

Grazin’ and Tyus are both trash tbh. Tyus is small and Allen often gets lost, is late to switch, late to put a hand up.


One of these guys needs to be upgraded to a positive defender… enter the Beal for Jimmy swap. MIL gonna love and Dame and Beal. Hell yeah.
The defense breaks down on the perimeter a lot and then everything turns to shit because it's usually a free path to the rim. Then it's either a layup or somebody comes and helps and somebody's wide open for a 3.
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The Bobster wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:43 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:38 pm
Dunn is a liability on offence.
So is Plumlee, so is O'Nealle, so is Oso.

You have to play somebody though. They just have to learn how to contribute in oither ways when they're on the court.
Yeah but Dunn is the only one of those starting. He's like Okogie tonight.

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This one's getting out of hand pretty quickly.
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Cavs by 20 feels like it might have been a conservative prediction now lol

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Now we've fallen off. Incredibly weak way to enter a game you are losing by double digits at half time.

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SunsSince92 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:54 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:43 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:38 pm
Dunn is a liability on offence.
So is Plumlee, so is O'Nealle, so is Oso.

You have to play somebody though. They just have to learn how to contribute in oither ways when they're on the court.
Yeah but Dunn is the only one of those starting. He's like Okogie tonight.
If he can get them 10 points a night and play defense, I'll be happy. It's these nights where he's a zero on offense and nobody else picks things up that are a problem.
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Ffs Dunn

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Well guys
"nice" being around for a half..... 😏😏

But think it's smart for me to turn this one off n go get some sleep before work sigh
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Cavs start the half on an 11-2 run.
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Yeah, the Pistons game was fools gold. This team still sucks.

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Nice putback by Dunn.

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Hahah can't grab a rebound to save their lives

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This is embarrassing.

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