Jimmy Butler trade rumors

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Butler just believes he can fix it

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I do also very much believe it’s get Butler or KD leaves…not in a you better get him or I’m demanding a trade…but more like both sides know this isn’t working without a big shakeup. Both KD and the Suns would be better off with a split. I’d be very surprised if it happened by Thursday, but I think we definitely plan on it in the summer if we don’t get Butler.

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This talk about talking calls about KD is such a non story. Gambo, Gerald and others already reported we are and that we are telling teams, we’re not interested at the moment but we’ll listen. Because that’s what you’re supposed to do.

We’re only getting a uptick in calls about KD cuz certain dumbass traded Luka, now everyone is trying to find the next dumbass to do something stupid, including us, seeing if they gonna offer something stupid we can’t turn down. Lol what if the bucks just offered us Giannis out the blue haha.

I just think these calls are much ado about nothing right now. Come the offseason, with the way the season is going. Of course that’ll be a different story but right now. It’s just hopeium for the blow it up crowd.

Yeah unfortunately it ain't happening.

And please, let's be real. Brad isn't an idiot and he's a human being, and these stories of him refusing to waive his NTC are bullshit. If he really said he's not waiving it, the Suns wouldn't be still aggressively after Butler. We'd have pivoted and made a different kind of deal a while back. Everyone from Windhorst to Gambo to Shams has verified the suns keep trying to trade Beal. You think the Suns wouldn't kill this 2 months ago if Brad said no?

OK, so is he gone or not after the trading deadline? What say you?

I think if Riley bends he's gone. Only so much the Suns and Beal can control

[Wally_West]

This talk about talking calls about KD is such a non story. Gambo, Gerald and others already reported we are and that we are telling teams, we’re not interested at the moment but we’ll listen. Because that’s what you’re supposed to do.

We’re only getting a uptick in calls about KD cuz certain dumbass traded Luka, now everyone is trying to find the next dumbass to do something stupid, including us, seeing if they gonna offer something stupid we can’t turn down. Lol what if the bucks just offered us Giannis out the blue haha.

I just think these calls are much ado about nothing right now. Come the offseason, with the way the season is going. Of course that’ll be a different story but right now. It’s just hopeium for the blow it up crowd.

Yeah unfortunately it ain't happening.

And please, let's be real. Brad isn't an idiot and he's a human being, and these stories of him refusing to waive his NTC are bullshit. If he really said he's not waiving it, the Suns wouldn't be still aggressively after Butler. We'd have pivoted and made a different kind of deal a while back. Everyone from Windhorst to Gambo to Shams has verified the suns keep trying to trade Beal. You think the Suns wouldn't kill this 2 months ago if Brad said no?

Agreed. Also think it’s bullshit that “we can’t find a team that will take on Beal”. Once again, If that was the case this shit would’ve been done with already and everyone would have moved. Clearly there’s a team or teams that are okay with taking Brad and Brad is okay going too. If this deal doesn’t get done it’s because Miami ultimately didn’t want to go thru with it.

[SunsShine]

There must be a team that’s interested in Beal, right? This Butler to Suns stuff has been ongoing for the last two months. The Suns have surely called every team in the league by now and have a firm understanding of who would want him. We would have completely moved on by now if there were no teams out there with interest.

[specialsauce]

This talk about talking calls about KD is such a non story. Gambo, Gerald and others already reported we are and that we are telling teams, we’re not interested at the moment but we’ll listen. Because that’s what you’re supposed to do.

We’re only getting a uptick in calls about KD cuz certain dumbass traded Luka, now everyone is trying to find the next dumbass to do something stupid, including us, seeing if they gonna offer something stupid we can’t turn down. Lol what if the bucks just offered us Giannis out the blue haha.

I just think these calls are much ado about nothing right now. Come the offseason, with the way the season is going. Of course that’ll be a different story but right now. It’s just hopeium for the blow it up crowd.

Yeah unfortunately it ain't happening.

And please, let's be real. Brad isn't an idiot and he's a human being, and these stories of him refusing to waive his NTC are bullshit. If he really said he's not waiving it, the Suns wouldn't be still aggressively after Butler. We'd have pivoted and made a different kind of deal a while back. Everyone from Windhorst to Gambo to Shams has verified the suns keep trying to trade Beal. You think the Suns wouldn't kill this 2 months ago if Brad said no?

Agreed. Also think it’s bullshit that “we can’t find a team that will take on Beal”. Once again, If that was the case this shit would’ve been done with already and everyone would have moved. Clearly there’s a team or teams that are okay with taking Brad and Brad is okay going too. If this deal doesn’t get done it’s because Miami ultimately didn’t want to go thru with it.

I am expecting it to get done. I think Riley is just saying fuck you to Himmothy and Phoenix by waiting until the last possible minute so they are fucked with all these losses and less time to mesh

[Wally_West]

This talk about talking calls about KD is such a non story. Gambo, Gerald and others already reported we are and that we are telling teams, we’re not interested at the moment but we’ll listen. Because that’s what you’re supposed to do.

We’re only getting a uptick in calls about KD cuz certain dumbass traded Luka, now everyone is trying to find the next dumbass to do something stupid, including us, seeing if they gonna offer something stupid we can’t turn down. Lol what if the bucks just offered us Giannis out the blue haha.

I just think these calls are much ado about nothing right now. Come the offseason, with the way the season is going. Of course that’ll be a different story but right now. It’s just hopeium for the blow it up crowd.

Yeah unfortunately it ain't happening.

And please, let's be real. Brad isn't an idiot and he's a human being, and these stories of him refusing to waive his NTC are bullshit. If he really said he's not waiving it, the Suns wouldn't be still aggressively after Butler. We'd have pivoted and made a different kind of deal a while back. Everyone from Windhorst to Gambo to Shams has verified the suns keep trying to trade Beal. You think the Suns wouldn't kill this 2 months ago if Brad said no?

Agreed. Also think it’s bullshit that “we can’t find a team that will take on Beal”. Once again, If that was the case this shit would’ve been done with already and everyone would have moved. Clearly there’s a team or teams that are okay with taking Brad and Brad is okay going too. If this deal doesn’t get done it’s because Miami ultimately didn’t want to go thru with it.

I am expecting it to get done. I think Riley is just saying fuck you to Himmothy and Phoenix by waiting until the last possible minute so they are fucked with all these losses and less time to mesh

Yeah, there’s definitely a petty factor at play.

If you want to believe KD’s homie Eddie, he basically said we had a deal with bulls that would’ve landed the Heat LaVine and picks and Butler to us. Heat getting no where near that offer now. Yikes.

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I think Riley got petty and said I’m not trading Butler to where he wants, so Jimmy double and tripled down to sabotage any chance Riley has at trading him to anyone but us. They absolutely don’t want Jimmy. He will be a sun on Thursday.

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There must be a team that’s interested in Beal, right? This Butler to Suns stuff has been ongoing for the last two months. The Suns have surely called every team in the league by now and have a firm understanding of who would want him. We would have completely moved on by now if there were no teams out there with interest.

Beal is still worth $30-25 million as a star. It’s just a giant overpay only poverty franchises want.

[ShelC]

The "contending teams" are definitely Golden State and Memphis. Not sure why he wouldn't want GS. You gotta wonder why he wants Phoenix so bad. I have a suspicion the players have the run of the place and Jimmy doesn't want to go to a really structured set up like GS where Kerr, Curry and Dray are going to make him conform to their system and culture. He's done with that after Miami. We don't seem to have any culture and the Bud doesn't seem like an accountability kinda guy. So KD's probably texting Jimmy like "Yea force your way over here, it's chill and we just do what we want".

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Haynes giving me a heart attack

[Wally_West]

It’s Phoenix. A deal is close

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Yawn.

[Ring_Wanted]

Yawn.

Indeed.

[SunsSince92]

I do also very much believe it’s get Butler or KD leaves…not in a you better get him or I’m demanding a trade…but more like both sides know this isn’t working without a big shakeup. Both KD and the Suns would be better off with a split. I’d be very surprised if it happened by Thursday, but I think we definitely plan on it in the summer if we don’t get Butler.

Yeah, I think the Suns may feel that the Butler deal isn't going to happen which is why they are suddenly listening to the offer from the Warriors. They know KD will be gone if they can't acquire Butler.

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It’s Phoenix. A deal is close

I don’t know. I’m really starting to get the feeling a KD trade may be happening instead.

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It’s Phoenix. A deal is close

I don’t know. I’m really starting to get the feeling a KD trade may be happening instead.

It might. They would have to get the Phx '25 back if they aren't getting anything to help the team this year.

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Here me out:

KD to Houston for Smith Jr, Sheppard, 2025 swap rights, and our 2027 pick back(and salary filler). Trade Grayson to Orlando for filler, 1 1st and swap rights back.

Send Royce and Tyus to Memphis for filler and swap rights back.

Run a Sheppard/Booker/Dunn/Smith Jr/Oso lineup the rest of the year. Beal/Bol/Richards plus whatever salary filler we got off the bench. Drop into the lottery, snag the 1st pick, draft Cooper Flagg and boom, we’ve got a Booker/Flagg/Smith Jr/Sheppard/Dunn core. We’ve got picks and youth and we still have Booker. If Booker says he’s not up for it…then get an absolute haul for him in the summer too.

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Cool, so lets just cross our fingers?