Game Day: Grizzlies (35-17) @ Suns (26-26), Tues 2/11/25

[JeremyG]

We can’t keep starting Tyus. Hes not a starting point guard and he should never sniff high leverage situations, just gets hunted nonstop

A promise is a promise.

[Split T]

Bol should’ve been our starting center from the beginning

Just had the first 18/14/4/2 game by a suns player in over 15 years…becomes the 5th player to have done it…Marion the last one in 2007(he did it 6 times). Amare, Nance, and Heard also did it.

[Wally_West]

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That’s the rotation. Very small. Not much choice tho. You can still mix it with KD, Bol and Richards. That’s what it should be going forward.

[Wally_West]

We can’t keep starting Tyus. Hes not a starting point guard and he should never sniff high leverage situations, just gets hunted nonstop

A promise is a promise.

[Superbone]

Game Score Predictions Results:

Kryptonic Grizzlies by 4
Mori Chu Grizzlies by 6
SunsSince92 Grizzlies by 8
SunsRIt Griz by 11
Superbone Grizzlies by 13
Carno Grizzles by 13
Split T - DISQUALIFIED
ShelC - PAINFULLY DISQUALIFIED
TOO - APATHETIC

Final score: Memphis 119 - Phoenix 112 for a 7 point Memphis win.

Our winner tonight: Mori Chu, only off by 1 with special mention to SunsSince92, also off 1 but on the other side.

[Superbone]

What a way for KD to spoil his 30,000th point game by throwing a horrible TO with the game on the line, basically sealing the loss.

[Superbone]

I'm glad Van Gundy didn't hold back on railing on our horrible defense all night.

[Kryptonic]

We can’t keep starting Tyus. Hes not a starting point guard and he should never sniff high leverage situations, just gets hunted nonstop

A promise is a promise.

No.. start him and on your first possession call a time out and sub lol. Promise kept.

[Kryptonic]

I'm glad Van Gundy didn't hold back on railing on our horrible defense all night.

That said, it’s impressive it was even that close.

[ShelC]

Postgame Quotes and Videos

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[AmareIsGod]

Wow. That Bol Bol stat line is impressive! How did he look?

[Mori Chu]

Wow. That Bol Bol stat line is impressive! How did he look?

He looked mostly great. Great start to the game hitting several shots and getting blocks. Then a few Bol Bol moments, silly plays, turnovers, bad shots in the middle of the game. Then he ended the game very strong again. Overall very good and impressive, and the crowd absolutely loved him and roared every time he did anything. Should get more minutes.

[Mori Chu]

What a way for KD to spoil his 30,000th point game by throwing a horrible TO with the game on the line, basically sealing the loss.

IMO this game was almost a perfect encapsulation of the KD experience. Very impressive play, scores a bunch, but kind of gums up the offense, sloppy turnovers, some defensive mistakes and lapses in effort, doesn't actually help us win. KD is a pretty decent defender overall but we had him trying to stop JJJ for parts of the game, and he looked really overmatched. And as SVG pointed out, KD didn't seem to notice that JJJ is lefty and always likes to go left; didn't try to deny him his preferred move or direction.

[ShelC]

KD's overrated as a defender IMO. I get he has to carry the offense and is a dominant scorer but even at the start of the game he's never pressing up defensively on his man or in any kind of defensive stance. He plays off, stands flatfooted and only reacts when he thinks his man is making a move.

I'm pretty much out on Bud at this point. Bol isn't changing the season for us and I don't care what his numbers are. He did this last year when Vogel decided to use him and then after a few games his flaws are exposed and you realize he's not impacting winning. There's no reason Dunn shouldn't be getting 30mpg. We got a real lift from him in the starting lineup and looked like things might be clicking, now he's out of the rotation. Then Bud plays TyTy out of nowhere. I get the roster isn't perfect but we've got more talent than we're showing. Others have pointed out, Vogel had us 12th last year in defense with Nurk starting and we won 49 games. You can't be experimenting with lineups and rotations 50 games into the season.

[Split T]

I thought KD was fantastic last night and the main reason we had a chance…he was out of the offense in the 1st Q and we were down 10…we outscored them from the 2nd Q on and KD dropped 34 on 12/18…ya he had a really bad turnover, but that was his only turnover of the game. JJJ was too big for him in the post, but he did have 5 blocks. Bad rebounding and some shaky shooting was the reason we lost.

[Superbone]

I'm glad Van Gundy didn't hold back on railing on our horrible defense all night.

That said, it’s impressive it was even that close.

If we cleaned that stuff up, we'd be a top third team. But, we haven't all season long. Way too many wide open threes and easy access to the basket. Not to mention we suck at getting the damn rebound, giving multiple opportunities.

[wpmiller42]

KD's overrated as a defender IMO. I get he has to carry the offense and is a dominant scorer but even at the start of the game he's never pressing up defensively on his man or in any kind of defensive stance. He plays off, stands flatfooted and only reacts when he thinks his man is making a move.

I'm pretty much out on Bud at this point. Bol isn't changing the season for us and I don't care what his numbers are. He did this last year when Vogel decided to use him and then after a few games his flaws are exposed and you realize he's not impacting winning. There's no reason Dunn shouldn't be getting 30mpg. We got a real lift from him in the starting lineup and looked like things might be clicking, now he's out of the rotation. Then Bud plays TyTy out of nowhere. I get the roster isn't perfect but we've got more talent than we're showing. Others have pointed out, Vogel had us 12th last year in defense with Nurk starting and we won 49 games. You can't be experimenting with lineups and rotations 50 games into the season.

I don' t think I'm out on Bud yet, but his rotations have been crazy. Dunn needs to be playing a ton. Bol should have been playing more earlier in the season. His gut telling him to go with Plumlee 9 times out of 10 is suspect. I just shake my head at a bunch of that.

[Split T]

We might have to admit that we are just bad rebounders and defenders…it’s easier to blame it on effort and effort is definitely part of it…but when it comes down to it, we just don’t have enough defenders/rebounders. It’s not going to fix itself.

[Superbone]

I thought KD was fantastic last night and the main reason we had a chance…he was out of the offense in the 1st Q and we were down 10…we outscored them from the 2nd Q on and KD dropped 34 on 12/18…ya he had a really bad turnover, but that was his only turnover of the game. JJJ was too big for him in the post, but he did have 5 blocks. Bad rebounding and some shaky shooting was the reason we lost.

We're not saying otherwise. Just that the timing of that one turnover was the worst imaginable.

[Superbone]

We might have to admit that we are just bad rebounders and defenders…it’s easier to blame it on effort and effort is definitely part of it…but when it comes down to it, we just don’t have enough defenders/rebounders. It’s not going to fix itself.

There is no excuse for leaving good shooters WIDE open from three. None. That's blown assignments and not paying attention.