Around the NBA: Week 22 (3/17 - 2/23)

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Nationally Televised Games (All Times ET)

Monday, March 17th
Miami Heat vs New York Knicks 7:30 PM ESPN
Denver Nuggets vs Golden State Warriors 10:00 PM ESPN

Tuesday, March 18th
Brooklyn Nets vs Boston Celtics 7:30 PM NBATV
Milwaukee Bucks vs Golden State Warriors 10:00 PM NBATV

Wednesday, March 19th
Detroit Pistons vs Miami Heat 7:30 PM ESPN
Denver Nuggets vs LA Lakers 10:00 PM ESPN

Thursday, March 20th
Brooklyn Nets vs Indiana Pacers 7:30 PM NBATV
Chicago Bulls vs Sacramento Kings 10:00 PM NBATV

Friday, March 21st
Philadelphia 76ers vs San Antonio Spurs 8:00 PM NBATV
Memphis Grizzlies vs LA Clippers 10:30 PM NBATV

Saturday, March 22nd
Golden State Warriors vs Atlanta Hawks 7:00 PM NBATV
Milwaukee Bucks vs Sacramento Kings 10:00 PM NBATV

Saturday, March 23rd
Oklahoma City Thunder vs LA Clippers 9:00 PM NBATV

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Junior Bridgeman, Louisville basketball great and Bucks minority owner, dies at 71

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The NBA's Shaq problem

Oliver Miller, star at Arkansas who then played in NBA, dies

Sonics legend Slick Watts dies at 73

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Thanks for the threads. I was curious about the "Players who can destroy an NBA team" but it's behind a paywall. I fully expected to see KD and Beal on it but they weren't pictured but I also couldn't read the article.
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In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.

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JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Easy to say when you just won the championship and have a top contender this year…what would he do if Boston lost last year and was struggling to get out of a play-in spot this year?

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SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
Does it? I don't miss Bobby Saver, but, are you sure this is a true statement?

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SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25

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SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I don't think he'll ever get past trading Ayton and that will continue to shade all opinions whether he knows it or not. My honest opinion. Nothing personal to Jeremy. I like Jeremy.
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Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
Does it? I don't miss Bobby Saver, but, are you sure this is a true statement?
I am.
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Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
I think I could name 10-12 teams I wouldn’t trade places with. We’re not in great shape, but a lot of you over exaggerate the hole we are in.

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Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:25 pm
I think I could name 10-12 teams I wouldn’t trade places with. We’re not in great shape, but a lot of you over exaggerate the hole we are in.
That is the way of the .net.
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Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
At least Ishbia cares about the now and is willing to spend the money to try to build a team. Sarver drove this team right into the ground and left it there for a decade because he wasn’t willing to spend any money or place any value in the draft.

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SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:27 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
At least Ishbia cares about the now and is willing to spend the money to try to build a team. Sarver drove this team right into the ground and left it there for a decade because he wasn’t willing to spend any money or place any value in the draft.
Ish doesn’t place any value in the draft either. That’s not inference, that’s straight from the horse’s mouth.

I’ll give Ish credit for spending, but he doesn’t spend wisely, and judging by his recent quote he seems disinterested in changing his ineffective approach.
“Are you crazy?! You think I’m going to go for seven years and try to get there? You enjoy the 2030 draft picks that we have holding? I want to try to see the game today.” — Ish 3/13/25

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SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm


In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I didn’t say I wanted Sarver. I said I wanted someone with an attitude like Chisholm.

As far as being happy with the team, why would I be happy with zero championships?

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Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:02 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:27 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:40 pm
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In other words, “You don’t have to worry, I’m not going to be like Mat Ishbia and get new owner syndrome and screw up a contender.”

If only we could have gotten an owner like him.
Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
At least Ishbia cares about the now and is willing to spend the money to try to build a team. Sarver drove this team right into the ground and left it there for a decade because he wasn’t willing to spend any money or place any value in the draft.
Ish doesn’t place any value in the draft either. That’s not inference, that’s straight from the horse’s mouth.

I’ll give Ish credit for spending, but he doesn’t spend wisely, and judging by his recent quote he seems disinterested in changing his ineffective approach.
Why don't we wait and judge him by his future actions before we spew gloom and doom. You act like he's the devil.
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Superbone wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:31 pm
Why don't we wait and judge him by his future actions before we spew gloom and doom. You act like he's the devil.
I think the right approach is somewhere in between. It's fine to give Ishbia some space to make amends in the future, but so far his time as Suns owner has been very spotty, and I think it's completely fair to call him out and criticize him for that. I don't think we need to "wait and judge him by his future actions" when we now have multiple years and many interviews and quotes and insider articles by which we can already judge his past and present actions.

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Superbone wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:31 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:02 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:27 pm
Cap wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:15 pm
SunsRIt wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm


Are you ever happy with this team? I would take Ishbia as an owner over Sarver every time. The team has a better future now than when Sarver was the owner.
I’d take Ish over Sarver too because Sarver is an awful human being, but how do you like our future? In terms of draft capital and young talent, we have one of the barest cupboards in the league. We also have an owner who says flat out that he doesn’t care about the future because he wants to try to see the game today.
At least Ishbia cares about the now and is willing to spend the money to try to build a team. Sarver drove this team right into the ground and left it there for a decade because he wasn’t willing to spend any money or place any value in the draft.
Ish doesn’t place any value in the draft either. That’s not inference, that’s straight from the horse’s mouth.

I’ll give Ish credit for spending, but he doesn’t spend wisely, and judging by his recent quote he seems disinterested in changing his ineffective approach.
Why don't we wait and judge him by his future actions before we spew gloom and doom. You act like he's the devil.
It’s unfair to judge him by past actions and by what he has said his future actions will be? You’re saying that maybe he doesn’t really mean the idiocy he just spewed and we should wait to see if he acts in a manner consistent with that expressed philosophy, as he always has?

I didn’t make up the garbage in my signature. Those words came out of his mouth. A week ago.
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Caps not wrong for his critique and ish deserves every bit coming his way. He made grandiose comments about things and any backlash is on ish. What once looked like an optimistic future has quickly been ruined by poor transaction and asset management. There’s no quick fix for the issues we have and the best way forward is to stop dumping assets to fix our mistakes.

If we go full rebuild I wouldn’t mind going for a youth movement and finding a college coach to take over and coach them. Go get the Hurley brothers and turn them loose.

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Kryptonic wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:56 pm
Caps not wrong for his critique and ish deserves every bit coming his way. He made grandiose comments about things and any backlash is on ish. What once looked like an optimistic future has quickly been ruined by poor transaction and asset management. There’s no quick fix for the issues we have and the best way forward is to stop dumping assets to fix our mistakes.

If we go full rebuild I wouldn’t mind going for a youth movement and finding a college coach to take over and coach them. Go get the Hurley brothers and turn them loose.
Dan Hurley is a clown and Bobby Hurley isn't very good. Hard passzzzzz
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Kryptonic wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:56 pm
Caps not wrong for his critique and ish deserves every bit coming his way. He made grandiose comments about things and any backlash is on ish. What once looked like an optimistic future has quickly been ruined by poor transaction and asset management. There’s no quick fix for the issues we have and the best way forward is to stop dumping assets to fix our mistakes.

If we go full rebuild I wouldn’t mind going for a youth movement and finding a college coach to take over and coach them. Go get the Hurley brothers and turn them loose.
I had full faith in Ish until he wussed out at the trade deadline and let KD dictate his own terms at the detriment of the organization. KD should not be on this team right now.

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