The Kevin Durant Problem

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I wonder if we can swing Kessler into a deal in some sort of 3/4 way deal.
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I could easily talk myself into Randle but also would likely be skeptical of a longterm plan.
If you think we were disappointed with Ayton, we'd be more infuriated with Randal. :shock:

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TOO wrote:
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I wonder if we can swing Kessler into a deal in some sort of 3/4 way deal.
Now we're talking.

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Gambo touting Randle as a big time scorer who adds toughness on the radio today.. barf
I feel like he was talking a lot about Dillingham yesterday…might be preparing for a Minny trade

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I listened to Gambo respond to that article that had 5 proposals for KD

Houston - Brooks, Landale, Sheppard, Whitmore, 25/27 1sts. Gambo said it’s not close to what Houston is offering…I get the feeling he meant the players involved.

Spurs - Vassell/Barnes/#14. Gambo said that’s probably close to what they are offering, thought you could get Sochan too.

Wolves - Gobert, DiVencenzo, Dillingham. Just talked about Dillingham as a young guy and seemed to go into detail about him for some reason.

Heat - Wiggins/Jovic/25 1st. Didn’t say much on this one, but it’s 🤮.

Knicks - OG/Robinson. Didn’t say much either. Gambo has said Knicks aren’t in on KD

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TOO wrote:
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Gambo touting Randle as a big time scorer who adds toughness on the radio today.. barf
Uh, oh. He usually does this when it's a good possibility. I wouldn't hate it but it wouldn't be the greatest. A lot would depend on 1st rounds pick(s) we got too.
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Kryptonic wrote:
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ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:29 pm
I could easily talk myself into Randle but also would likely be skeptical of a longterm plan.
If you think we were disappointed with Ayton, we'd be more infuriated with Randal. :shock:
I don't know. I'd at least appreciate his bull in a china shop routine for a change. Suns haven't had that for a very long time.
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Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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Gambo saying he knows who he believes has the best offer, won't say obviously, but this and trying to pimp the TWolves guys makes me uneasy 😆
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Durant's Next Team - Odds - Implied Probability
San Antonio Spurs - -125 - 55.56%
Minnesota Timberwolves - +400 - 20%
Houston Rockets - +800 - 11.11%
Phoenix Suns - +1000 - 9.09%
Miami Heat - +1000 - 9.09%
New York Knicks - +1500 - 6.25%

San Antonio has Vassell, Barnes (or Johnson) and perhaps Sochan. I don't see any way that they trade Castle or the #2 pick.

Minnesota is reportedly offering Gobert, Conley and DiVincenzo (along with picks) which isn't exactly a youth movement. There are hoops they'd have to jump through to include Randle in the deal.

Houston has the most young assets, but Thompson and Segun are likely unbtouchable and the deal may have to include Brooks to match salaries.

A Miami deal would have to include Wiggins, and Robinson would be attractive because $10 million of his salary next year isn't guarated, but I wouldn't make the deal unless I can get Ware from them

Since it's been reported that the Suns have no interest in Karl Anthony-Towns the deal with New York would have to be Anunoby and Mitchell. They could also go with Bridges and Mitchell, but Anunoby and Bridges doesn't fit Durant's salary slot.
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I wanted Randle years ago when we could have just signed him for nothing. Now we’re going to trade KD for him?
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The Bobster wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:36 pm
Durant's Next Team - Odds - Implied Probability
San Antonio Spurs - -125 - 55.56%
Minnesota Timberwolves - +400 - 20%
Houston Rockets - +800 - 11.11%
Phoenix Suns - +1000 - 9.09%
Miami Heat - +1000 - 9.09%
New York Knicks - +1500 - 6.25%

San Antonio has Vassell, Barnes (or Johnson) and perhaps Sochan. I don't see any way that they trade Castle or the #2 pick.

Minnesota is reportedly offering Gobert, Conley and DiVincenzo (along with picks) which isn't exactly a youth movement. There are hoops they'd have to jump through to include Randle in the deal.

Houston has the most young assets, but Thompson and Segun are likely unbtouchable and the deal may have to include Brooks to match salaries.

A Miami deal would have to include Wiggins, and Robinson would be attractive because $10 million of his salary next year isn't guarated, but I wouldn't make the deal unless I can get Ware from them

Since it's been reported that the Suns have no interest in Karl Anthony-Towns the deal with New York would have to be Anunoby and Mitchell. They could also go with Bridges and Mitchell, but Anunoby and Bridges doesn't fit Durant's salary slot.
I don't totally hate the Minnesota deal. I probably like Gobert more than most though

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The Bobster wrote:
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Minnesota is reportedly offering Gobert, Conley and DiVincenzo (along with picks) which isn't exactly a youth movement. There are hoops they'd have to jump through to include Randle in the deal.
Yeah, with all Randle talk, you have to remember he still hasn't exercised his player option, so technically he can't even be traded yet. I think they're working with scenarios that have Gobert included instead.

I don't want Gobert and would love to see him flipped to a team like Chicago, something like Nikola Vucevic/Dalen Terry/Jalen Smith.

They can keep DiVincenzo and send us Dillingham and Leonard Miller, along with picks #17, #31, and a future pick. The great thing about Conley is that he is in the last year of his deal.

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INFORMER wrote:
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The Bobster wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:36 pm
Minnesota is reportedly offering Gobert, Conley and DiVincenzo (along with picks) which isn't exactly a youth movement. There are hoops they'd have to jump through to include Randle in the deal.
Yeah, with all Randle talk, you have to remember he still hasn't exercised his player option, so technically he can't even be traded yet. I think they're working with scenarios that have Gobert included instead.

I don't want Gobert and would love to see him flipped to a team like Chicago, something like Nikola Vucevic/Dalen Terry/Jalen Smith.

They can keep DiVincenzo and send us Dillingham and Leonard Miller, along with picks #17, #31, and a future pick. The great thing about Conley is that he is in the last year of his deal.
Yeah, I'd love to get off all this money tied up in mediocrity as soon as possible. Gimme all the one year deals. Gobert is probably a great option for Ott if he wants a C to just play drop and protect the paint, but if he wants to get and run offensively Gobert is a turtle, so is Conley for that matter.
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One complication that I haven't seen mentioned is that a first apron team can't take back more salary then they are sending out. So if Houston doesn't decline FVV's team option, I don't see how they can be an eligible trade partner with the Adams, Green, and Sengun's extensions kicking in.

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Begley's pretty tuned in and this sounds like he's maybe heard some things about the Knicks being involved.


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The Bobster wrote:
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specialsauce wrote:
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sunset rubdown wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:29 am
JeremyG wrote:
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TOO wrote:
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Agreed. I wonder what sort of C a guy like Vassell could bring back? He's around 25m per, gotta be something decent around that price
Jusuf Nurkic makes $19M. :P
I am sure TOO was a huge fan of Nurk and Richards.

Its almost funny how we were used to mediocre to bad centers, finally draft one good and half the fanbase wanted him gone just to endure more bad Cs.
Remind me, which one was the good one?
Robin Lopez?
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JJ Slim wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:32 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:12 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:11 pm
sunset rubdown wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:29 am
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:02 pm


Jusuf Nurkic makes $19M. :P
I am sure TOO was a huge fan of Nurk and Richards.

Its almost funny how we were used to mediocre to bad centers, finally draft one good and half the fanbase wanted him gone just to endure more bad Cs.
Remind me, which one was the good one?
Robin Lopez?
Jake Tsakalidis!
Dolph Schayes' son

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Kryptonic wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:36 pm
JJ Slim wrote:
Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:32 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:12 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:11 pm
sunset rubdown wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:29 am


I am sure TOO was a huge fan of Nurk and Richards.

Its almost funny how we were used to mediocre to bad centers, finally draft one good and half the fanbase wanted him gone just to endure more bad Cs.
Remind me, which one was the good one?
Robin Lopez?
Jake Tsakalidis!
Dolph Schayes' son
They didn't draft that one, but it was cool to see his dad at the games!
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Everyone's favorite insider Flex thinks Minnesota is also in the lead.
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