2015 NBA Draft

[Indy]

I don't really understand the hype about how players play in the tournament. If a guy has had a great college career and he has a few bad games come March, so what? It happens. Conversely, if a guy is mediocre and then plays lights-out it seems to artificially pump up their stock. Looking at you, Ed Pinckney.

Its easy to grasp. That the only time most people (including sports media types) watch those players.

You have to love Warren. He has already improved his game since he was drafted. His production is more efficient with the Suns than he was in college. I would so much love to find a starting pf this summer, move TJ to the starting position at SF. Move PJ to the starting 2. Then bring Knight, Wright, and the Morrii off the bench.

Simply adding a high level, starting pf would do wonders for this team. If Bledsoe can't hack it as the starging pg, bring Knight in as the starter and bring Eric off the bench.

What would change next year to make you think Bledsoe could do that?

[Robot]

What if the Suns jump into the top 3 and push the Lakers to #6 this year ?

- R

[TOO]

What if the Suns jump into the top 3 and push the Lakers to #6 this year ?

- R

I'll be happy to be in the top 3, cant worry about the LA pick anymore, doesn't change anything.

[Robot]

I think if we get into the top 3 we should have some sort of massive party. Like if we actually got a #1 pick can you imagine. The Lakers thing would make us crazy though have to admit

- R

[carey]

What if the Suns jump into the top 3 and push the Lakers to #6 this year ?

- R

Woops.

[Superbone]

Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen. When's the last time the Suns have had any draft luck?

[Mori Chu]

Didn't we have protected rights to the picks that became Joakim Noah and/or Al Horford? But the teams involved just barely got to keep the picks because they landed too high.

[Superbone]

Didn't we have protected rights to the picks that became Joakim Noah and/or Al Horford? But the teams involved just barely got to keep the picks because they landed too high.

Yep, I believe Atlanta moved from 4 to 3. Just out of reach and we missed out on Noah.

[carey]

Brandon Ashley entering the draft.

[carey]

I want Harrell on the Suns. He has all the skills & qualities that we lack. Tenacious on the offensive boards, finishes over length and most importantly has a red hot motor that's running all the time. Kind of like Manimal part II. Click this incredibly long link for video highlights from Givony.

http://player.complex.com/tv/iframe?cId ... BgYiQr7hJU

[Superbone]

I want Harrell on the Suns. He has all the skills & qualities that we lack. Tenacious on the offensive boards, finishes over length and most importantly has a red hot motor that's running all the time. Kind of like Manimal part II. Click this incredibly long link for video highlights from Givony.

http://player.complex.com/tv/iframe?cId ... BgYiQr7hJU

That means we won't work him out.

[In2ition]

I'm underwhelmed by Harrell. I just don't think he's a difference maker.

[carey]

I'm underwhelmed by Harrell. I just don't think he's a difference maker.

I'm not sure there's a difference maker in this draft to be had at #13, at least one that I can say for certain right now anyway. I guess that's why they make the big bucks. The guys in that range though all have problems. Poeltl, Turner, Oubre, Dunn, Dekker, Grant, Booker, and Portis? Ugh. The most talented out of that group is probably Grant who we don't need. The one I like the most is Oubre who we don't need. Givony has Harrell all the way down at #23 now. Maybe we can trade down, pick him up and a future pick too. I guess we'll see. There's always the chance I will be wowed by another prospect between here and late June.

[Shabazz]

I liked Harrell until I read this.

Harrell would be best to pattern his game after Denver's Kenneth Faried, who has had success because he understands playing hard is a skill. Faried, however, averaged more than 12 rebounds a game during his Morehead State career, including a senior season when he averaged almost 15 rebounds a game. Harrell, on the other hand, has averaged only seven rebounds a game during his three seasons at Louisville.

While Harrell's rebounding numbers should be adjusted for a higher level of competition than Faried played at, it should be noted that this season his Offensive Rebound Rate ranked 274th in the country and his Defensive Rebound Rate was 248th best. Both are pedestrian numbers for someone with a reputation for having a high motor.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/inside ... pro-future

[In2ition]

I'm underwhelmed by Harrell. I just don't think he's a difference maker.

I'm not sure there's a difference maker in this draft to be had at #13, at least one that I can say for certain right now anyway. I guess that's why they make the big bucks. The guys in that range though all have problems. Poeltl, Turner, Oubre, Dunn, Dekker, Grant, Booker, and Portis? Ugh. The most talented out of that group is probably Grant who we don't need. The one I like the most is Oubre who we don't need. Givony has Harrell all the way down at #23 now. Maybe we can trade down, pick him up and a future pick too. I guess we'll see. There's always the chance I will be wowed by another prospect between here and late June.

I see what some people are excited about with Harrell, but as I evaluate him, he'll be lucky to be a journeyman in the NBA. I wouldn't even bother with guys that won't make a difference if I was running the Suns, those guys are a dime a dozen. What they need are guys that can be stars in the league, other than that they are just trying to run in deep mud. Although I have not gone in depth on my evaluations of players in the range of 13, I think someone with the upside of Myles Turner would be best. I haven't been impressed with what I've seen of his BballIQ, but his athleticism, his size, and some of his skills say that he could turn into a player at the next level.

[Robot]

i would like to see the Suns nab another european center or marginal point guard this year. Who is avail? Injury prone would be ideal so we can continue to develop Tucker and Marcus Morris. I think a player who has no real 'star' ego or personality / leadership qualities would be a perfect fit with the front office

- R

[carey]

I'm underwhelmed by Harrell. I just don't think he's a difference maker.

I'm not sure there's a difference maker in this draft to be had at #13, at least one that I can say for certain right now anyway. I guess that's why they make the big bucks. The guys in that range though all have problems. Poeltl, Turner, Oubre, Dunn, Dekker, Grant, Booker, and Portis? Ugh. The most talented out of that group is probably Grant who we don't need. The one I like the most is Oubre who we don't need. Givony has Harrell all the way down at #23 now. Maybe we can trade down, pick him up and a future pick too. I guess we'll see. There's always the chance I will be wowed by another prospect between here and late June.

I see what some people are excited about with Harrell, but as I evaluate him, he'll be lucky to be a journeyman in the NBA. I wouldn't even bother with guys that won't make a difference if I was running the Suns, those guys are a dime a dozen. What they need are guys that can be stars in the league, other than that they are just trying to run in deep mud. Although I have not gone in depth on my evaluations of players in the range of 13, I think someone with the upside of Myles Turner would be best. I haven't been impressed with what I've seen of his BballIQ, but his athleticism, his size, and some of his skills say that he could turn into a player at the next level.

Are they? Cause we don't have a single player with a high motor on this team nor one that can finish over length.

[In2ition]

You're right, the Suns need that kind of a player, but I'm just saying I think he's fools gold.

[carey]

You're right, the Suns need that kind of a player, but I'm just saying I think he's fools gold.

Understood. Hell, you could be right. I can't predict that. He looked good to me in the tournament tho. He did play big minutes & his rebounding numbers were just soso.

[Superbone]

Are they? Cause we don't have a single player with a high motor on this team nor one that can finish over length.

I think PJ has a high motor.