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Jimmer Fredette sucks, people bag on Doc's kid all day long but this turd gets a free pass. I don't get it.
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Jimmer Fredette sucks, people bag on Doc's kid all day long but this turd gets a free pass. I don't get it.
Who's giving him a free pass? He hasn't done anything in the NBA so far.
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Ladmo wrote:I was wondering if you guys picked up on the Jimmer to San Antonio story.
I fucking hate it when the Spurs keep picking up talented players that nobody is interested in for nothing, and then look like geniuses for doing the obvious. I keep hoping that the Suns might be that smart.

How are you gonna' feel if the Suns get their asses handed to them by the Spurs Fredette knocking down game winning threes? My worst nightmare is coming to fruition, yet again...
You've got some really weird nightmares, and if that's the worst, you have a pretty good life. Jimmer isn't going to turn into what sinks the Suns.
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Jimmer is talented, and I am curious to see what if anything the Spurs can get out of him. I don't think he'll hit a game-winning 3 to beat the Suns this year, but that's because I doubt we'll be within 3 points of the Spurs at the end of a game.

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Mori Chu wrote:Jimmer is talented, and I am curious to see what if anything the Spurs can get out of him. I don't think he'll hit a game-winning 3 to beat the Suns this year, but that's because I doubt we'll be within 3 points of the Spurs at the end of a game.
Damn, MC. You are pretty down on the Suns right now, huh? Or are you just that high on the Spurs?
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carey wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:Jimmer is talented, and I am curious to see what if anything the Spurs can get out of him. I don't think he'll hit a game-winning 3 to beat the Suns this year, but that's because I doubt we'll be within 3 points of the Spurs at the end of a game.
Damn, MC. You are pretty down on the Suns right now, huh? Or are you just that high on the Spurs?
He is obviously predicting that we are going to win 4-0 in the seasons series with double digit winning margin in every game!!!

Right? :lol:

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Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
carey wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:Jimmer is talented, and I am curious to see what if anything the Spurs can get out of him. I don't think he'll hit a game-winning 3 to beat the Suns this year, but that's because I doubt we'll be within 3 points of the Spurs at the end of a game.
Damn, MC. You are pretty down on the Suns right now, huh? Or are you just that high on the Spurs?
He is obviously predicting that we are going to win 4-0 in the seasons series with double digit winning margin in every game!!!

Right? :lol:
Reverse psychology for the win! :D
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carey wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:Jimmer is talented, and I am curious to see what if anything the Spurs can get out of him. I don't think he'll hit a game-winning 3 to beat the Suns this year, but that's because I doubt we'll be within 3 points of the Spurs at the end of a game.
Damn, MC. You are pretty down on the Suns right now, huh? Or are you just that high on the Spurs?
Well, I wasn't trying to be harsh. But the Spurs look like one of the best teams in the NBA, and we are probably not even a playoff team, or a fringe one if we do make it. So it's likely that when we play them next season, they'll beat us handily.

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Don't you guys realize how the Spurs operate yet? Let me break it down.
The NBA is full of STUPID, STUPID, motherfuckers.
The idiots in charge allow their egos to run wild.
They, for whatever reason, don't develop talent anymore. They BUY it.
Then you end up with some barely talented fucking asshole turning the ball over trying to drive it in the paint every fucking time to justify his inflated paycheck! YES, I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT YOU BLEDSOE! Piece of shit...

There are only so many minutes to go around, team's gotta' produce, so development happens in the fucking D-League or it don't happen at all! Sure, you get situations where a guy like James Harden gets a chance to chuck a million shots, or Steph Curry is the hope for a franchise, so he gets the minutes he deserves, but this is the exception and not the rule.

Then look at what the fuckin' Spurs do... motherfuckers... They pick off free agents with potential who never were really given a shot to PLAY THEIR GAME. They sit their stars, they give minutes to guys who deserve chances, they work 'em out with coaches, bring 'em along, like the NBA USED ta' do in the olden days... and sum'bitch, by some quirk the old an reliable techniques actually work, imagine that?

The rest of the NBA is just dumb, dumb dumb... Unless you got a Lebron, or a Durant, or a Curry, or a Harden on your team, why the fuck wouldn't you try and develop some talent to fill out your team? Holy Christ, it sure would be a helluva' lot more entertaining than the bullshit I've been forced to watch here in town the last... what... decade or two? We're fuckin' retarded, you know that, right? We are some dumbfucks. We throw money at bullshit, and we still fail. I am not entertained.
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Welp. :shock:
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Really?
The last two decades?

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Somebody seems to be off their meds.....
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Ladmo wrote:Don't you guys realize how the Spurs operate yet? Let me break it down.
The NBA is full of STUPID, STUPID, motherfuckers.
The idiots in charge allow their egos to run wild.
They, for whatever reason, don't develop talent anymore. They BUY it.
Then you end up with some barely talented fucking asshole turning the ball over trying to drive it in the paint every fucking time to justify his inflated paycheck! YES, I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT YOU BLEDSOE! Piece of shit...

There are only so many minutes to go around, team's gotta' produce, so development happens in the fucking D-League or it don't happen at all! Sure, you get situations where a guy like James Harden gets a chance to chuck a million shots, or Steph Curry is the hope for a franchise, so he gets the minutes he deserves, but this is the exception and not the rule.

Then look at what the fuckin' Spurs do... motherfuckers... They pick off free agents with potential who never were really given a shot to PLAY THEIR GAME. They sit their stars, they give minutes to guys who deserve chances, they work 'em out with coaches, bring 'em along, like the NBA USED ta' do in the olden days... and sum'bitch, by some quirk the old an reliable techniques actually work, imagine that?

The rest of the NBA is just dumb, dumb dumb... Unless you got a Lebron, or a Durant, or a Curry, or a Harden on your team, why the fuck wouldn't you try and develop some talent to fill out your team? Holy Christ, it sure would be a helluva' lot more entertaining than the bullshit I've been forced to watch here in town the last... what... decade or two? We're fuckin' retarded, you know that, right? We are some dumbfucks. We throw money at bullshit, and we still fail. I am not entertained.
Man. Just get off the fence and get an opinion, why don't ya.

I agree with this though. Though I might not have expressed it with such flowery language. I am not so anti-Bledsoe though.

The Suns HAVE to develop every player they have to be the best that they can be. When you are picking middle of the pack you have to do this. Which means, that when you find a player like Gerald Green, and you give him playing time so that the rest of the league sees his value, you trade him for value rather than waiting until he is a FA and let him walk. GGReen should have been traded a year ago for picks.

Archie, Booker, and TJ HAVE to be developed. I am assuming that is the primary reason why MOok was traded. The Suns have to scout the NBA as well as college ball and Europe to find the real gems that are buried on other team's rosters. We need to find "third wheels" that can be "first wheels." NBA history is full of examples.

Harden, Joe Johnson, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, and many more.

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JCSunsfan wrote:
Ladmo wrote:Don't you guys realize how the Spurs operate yet? Let me break it down.
The NBA is full of STUPID, STUPID, motherfuckers.
The idiots in charge allow their egos to run wild.
They, for whatever reason, don't develop talent anymore. They BUY it.
Then you end up with some barely talented fucking asshole turning the ball over trying to drive it in the paint every fucking time to justify his inflated paycheck! YES, I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT YOU BLEDSOE! Piece of shit...

There are only so many minutes to go around, team's gotta' produce, so development happens in the fucking D-League or it don't happen at all! Sure, you get situations where a guy like James Harden gets a chance to chuck a million shots, or Steph Curry is the hope for a franchise, so he gets the minutes he deserves, but this is the exception and not the rule.

Then look at what the fuckin' Spurs do... motherfuckers... They pick off free agents with potential who never were really given a shot to PLAY THEIR GAME. They sit their stars, they give minutes to guys who deserve chances, they work 'em out with coaches, bring 'em along, like the NBA USED ta' do in the olden days... and sum'bitch, by some quirk the old an reliable techniques actually work, imagine that?

The rest of the NBA is just dumb, dumb dumb... Unless you got a Lebron, or a Durant, or a Curry, or a Harden on your team, why the fuck wouldn't you try and develop some talent to fill out your team? Holy Christ, it sure would be a helluva' lot more entertaining than the bullshit I've been forced to watch here in town the last... what... decade or two? We're fuckin' retarded, you know that, right? We are some dumbfucks. We throw money at bullshit, and we still fail. I am not entertained.
Man. Just get off the fence and get an opinion, why don't ya.

I agree with this though. Though I might not have expressed it with such flowery language. I am not so anti-Bledsoe though.

The Suns HAVE to develop every player they have to be the best that they can be. When you are picking middle of the pack you have to do this. Which means, that when you find a player like Gerald Green, and you give him playing time so that the rest of the league sees his value, you trade him for value rather than waiting until he is a FA and let him walk. GGReen should have been traded a year ago for picks.

Archie, Booker, and TJ HAVE to be developed. I am assuming that is the primary reason why MOok was traded. The Suns have to scout the NBA as well as college ball and Europe to find the real gems that are buried on other team's rosters. We need to find "third wheels" that can be "first wheels." NBA history is full of examples.

Harden, Joe Johnson, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, and many more.
YES! I agree whole-heartedly... except the Bledsoe thing, I can't stand watching that guy... worst handles of any starting PG in the league. I really like Green. Man, he played great when given minutes, didn't he? Maybe not the best defender ever, but he could have developed into quite the scorer, given the chance. Buy low, well high! He SHOULD have been traded when he had value, or he should have been given more minutes and increased his value even more! Instead, we put him on the bench and he would heat up from time to time, and his value disappeared.

I am half/joking with the colorful language, but I believe what I'm saying too. GM's bet the farm overspending on guys who don't deserve it, then are forced to continue with their plan, however flawed it is. I feel like that's the tightrope we walk right now. We have to play Bledsoe to prove his value because we've invested too much in him. That's stupid!
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Green only dropped in value with more minutes this last season. And that is coming from a GG supporter.

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Indy wrote:Green only dropped in value with more minutes this last season. And that is coming from a GG supporter.
He should have been traded earlier.

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Had GG been traded at the beginning of last season, he would have had some real value...sigh.

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That's easy for you guys to say in hindsight.
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Superbone wrote:That's easy for you guys to say in hindsight.
Of course it is. That's why it is so clear. But we aren't paid millions of dollars to make that call. Other people are and should see it well before we do.

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Superbone wrote:That's easy for you guys to say in hindsight.
GG had many supporters, happy to see him stay, but among them and the rest of the .net, many acknowledged and stablished that given the triple PG setting coming our way, the development of Goodwin, and the incoming free agency of GG, it was inevitably to see him traded during the season, wich never happened. So i don't think that we are talking within hindsight on this. The Goran saga would be a better example.

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