Markieff Morris Watch

[Ring_Wanted]

I think it's more beneficial for the franchise for the players to get some exposure to the playoffs and get the 15th or 16th pick than to miss it again and get the 13th of 14th. That's why a short term move would be in our best interests.

That's what I thought in 13-14 and 14-15 until the trade deadline, and definitely the mindset I had entering the season (to give Bled-Knight a fair chance), but not anymore. I've watched enough.

Bledsoe-Knight is bad basketball, and the rest of the roster has too many holes to try to just patch it unless you miraclously can turn water into wins. You need improve too many things.

Instead of looking ot add to what is perceived as the nucleous (Bleds-Knight) plus the electrons (aka kids), I'd be all for moving Knight-Kieff-Tucker and would make Teletovic available as well. Teletowar has been a great surprise but is expiring.

If you can grab a (super)star, go for it.

Otherwise, trade those players for future assets and cap flexibility. Let Hornacek expire and if he doesn't make progress just let him go. Suck deleberately (tank) and get a high pick.

Because this year IT IS POSSIBLE in the West!

Currently we are #9. It is perfectly feasible to finish worse than anyone not named BRY, LAL, PHI. Everbody else wants to compete this year (or is doing it anyways).

Keep Bledsoe, the kids, Chandler, Leuer. Drop the rest for picks, expiring, rookie scale prospects.

[Ring_Wanted]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

[Shabazz]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

Blah.

[AmareIsGod]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

Blah.

#ThatHairTho

[TOO]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

Why?

[markymcq]

Hi Guys, First time poster.

What about this trade idea:

Suns get : D Howard, M Hezjonia, J lin, C Frye
Magic Get: T Chandler, J Leuer
Houston get : B Knight, M Morris, PJ Tucker
Hornets Get : Weems, 2 Second Rd Pick from suns

Mins breakdown
Dwight h 29
Len 19

Teletovic 23
Frye 19
Len 1
Warren 5

Warren 25
Hezonja 20
Booker 3

Goodwin 16
Booker 22
Lin 10

Bledsoe 35
lin 13

[carey]

Dwight would be a disaster on this team. I don't want anything to do with Lin or Frye. Also, I can't recall a team trading 4-starters in a single trade before. I would like to acquire Hezonja, I think he's going to be really good, but I've very happy with Devin Booker.

[pickle]

As I just mentioned in the other thread, I'm no fan of Dwight Howard, but I'd take his contract for this year for more flexibility going forward. But that's as far as I'd go.

The rest of this trade seems like Knight for Hezonja. I think I can get behind that, as I'm with Ring on the tanking idea and I don't mind turning existing assets into future potential at this point.

I don't mind Lin or Frye. Lin is on a super cheap contract and is in fact slightly underpaid imho. Frye is who he is, but his contract is basically the same as Markieff and he can probably be more productive for us than Markieff. In that scenario I'd prefer to keep Leuer and move Teletovic though, since Frye and Teletovic duplicate somewhat the quick trigger from 3 point line skill set while Leuer is more active.

And welcome marky!

[Ring_Wanted]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

Why?

Because he is very good and very young. Next Tony Parker.

[Ring_Wanted]

I could see Morey interested in those three Suns, but the rest doesn't work. The Magic should never trade Hezonja and Frye for Chandler and Leuer, and the Hornets are winning and Lin is one of the reasons as to why, whereas Weems is garbage and you can't make up for that with second round picks.

[Ring_Wanted]

Welcome to the board, btw!

[TOO]

Btw I'd make Bledsoe available for Dennis Schroder.

Why?

Because he is very good and very young. Next Tony Parker.

Ehhh.. Don't see that, he'll never be as efficient as Parker.

[pickle]

I also am not a huge fan of Schroeder. There are already rumblings that he doesn't pass as much as he should and that he wants to run a team on his own, a la Reggie Jackson. He's also a bit undersized, so if we bring a guy like him onboard, we should probably ditch both Bledsoe and Knight... But I really don't follow the Hawks that closely so maybe I'm just very misinformed.

[ShelC]

He's not undersized. 6-2 with about a 6-8 wingspan. Looks a lot like Rondo out there from a physical standpoint IMO. I was much more excited about Schroeder a year or two ago but he has been limited a bit playing behind Teague. It's allowed him to work on his jumper and he does need to get moved to become a starter. I think he's still a huge talent and can run the PnR beautifully. But yea, if we want to really start over with a new PG, it entails getting rid of Knight and Bledsoe. I wouldn't be opposed to it but it would get messy. But I'd much rather have a legit, high IQ PG with maybe less physical talent and start him in the backcourt with Booker.

[Ring_Wanted]

Yep ShelC, it is not hard to see Parker's style with Rondo's body. His speed at changing directions while penetrating is crazy, and he doesn't have a broken shot despite his %s.

If I were to rebuild the Suns, Schroder is one nice target at PG, and I think Atlanta can make a great trade partner in a three way scenario if you provide them a relevant SF and some depth, including backup PG to Teague.

And for what is worth, I believe he'd make a good backcourt with Booker.

[pickle]

He's not undersized. 6-2 with about a 6-8 wingspan. Looks a lot like Rondo out there from a physical standpoint IMO. I was much more excited about Schroeder a year or two ago but he has been limited a bit playing behind Teague. It's allowed him to work on his jumper and he does need to get moved to become a starter. I think he's still a huge talent and can run the PnR beautifully. But yea, if we want to really start over with a new PG, it entails getting rid of Knight and Bledsoe. I wouldn't be opposed to it but it would get messy. But I'd much rather have a legit, high IQ PG with maybe less physical talent and start him in the backcourt with Booker.

Just wanted to clarify the undersized comment -- it was in reference to playing him in a dual-pg lineup like we currently have, since I don't think Bledsoe or Knight are capable of defending a shooting guard full time and Schroeder doesn't seem up to the task either. If he's the single pg, I think he's fine.

[ShelC]

I keep trying to work out deals involving us, Orlando, NY, Atlanta, Houston with all the PGs being swapped around along with Markieff, Tobias Harris, and other parts. Something like Bledsoe and Kieff to Orlando, Knight and Lawson to NY, Calderon to Houston, we get Schroeder and Harris.

[Indy]

Hi Guys, First time poster.

What about this trade idea:

Suns get : D Howard, M Hezjonia, J lin, C Frye
Magic Get: T Chandler, J Leuer
Houston get : B Knight, M Morris, PJ Tucker
Hornets Get : Weems, 2 Second Rd Pick from suns

Mins breakdown
Dwight h 29
Len 19

Teletovic 23
Frye 19
Len 1
Warren 5

Warren 25
Hezonja 20
Booker 3

Goodwin 16
Booker 22
Lin 10

Bledsoe 35
lin 13

I hate the trade, but welcome to the board!

[Indy]

I keep trying to work out deals involving us, Orlando, NY, Atlanta, Houston with all the PGs being swapped around along with Markieff, Tobias Harris, and other parts. Something like Bledsoe and Kieff to Orlando, Knight and Lawson to NY, Calderon to Houston, we get Schroeder and Harris.

The more I read things around the league, it really looks like both our PGs have quite a bit of value...

[ShelC]

That's interesting to hear. I wouldn't be surprised if other execs like our PGs, just not in the same backcourt. Bledsoe is honestly a beast and Knight has proven he can score with the best of them and still run a team. I just prefer a more traditional PG and SG. So guys like Schroeder or Elfrid Payton in a backcourt with Booker is much more appealing to me.

I just feel like PGs are so prevalent and most teams have at least a serviceable one that taking on one of our guys at 80 mil doesn't make a whole lot of sense.