The problem is thinking the two are mutually exclusive. Pick for veteran trades and pick now for pick later trades hardly ever workout for the team dealing the picks. The fact that I have to tell this to a Suns fan is both sad and hilarious at the same time.Superbone wrote:Would you rather win a championship or field a roster of 19 and 20-year-olds? Wait, don't answer that.
Yeah, I seriously doubt we're keeping all three 1st rounders - my gut says we'll have one left & it'll be the highest. How high that pick will end up, I couldn't tell you.....Superbone wrote:Seriously, my gut tells me we'll bring in one or two rookies at most and we will start tinkering with some name free agents or dabble in a trade or two for proven players.
You don't have to tell me anything. When did I say anything about picks for veteran trades or picks for later picks?INFORMER wrote:The problem is thinking the two are mutually exclusive. Pick for veteran trades and pick now for pick later trades hardly ever workout for the team dealing the picks. The fact that I have to tell this to a Suns fan is both sad and hilarious at the same time.Superbone wrote:Would you rather win a championship or field a roster of 19 and 20-year-olds? Wait, don't answer that.
And the "roster of 19-20 year olds" comment is a ridiculous hyperbole.
Yeah, that was a ridiculous disaster and totally unnecessary and haunts us to this day. Who knows if Iguodala might have been the difference between us winning our first championship or not? Nash, Amare, Marion, AND Iguodala? Wow.Sunsfan4life wrote:I don't mind if they traded for a future 1. I just would mind if they traded for a future 1 before seeing the board unfold and who was available (Ie the Igudedola/Deng disaster).
Exactly.Sunsfan4life wrote: I think every case when talking about trading a pick in the draft is different depending on the team, the pick, who your trading with, and whats available at the time.
That's not what I said. And what I was implying is that you draft to build a contender. No, those 19-22 year olds are not going to win a championship tomorrow. But you draft them, develop them, maybe even trade some of them, but that's how you build a contender, especially if you're not LA or NY or you don't already have a superstar. And it's a ridiculous hyperbole because we still have guys like Channing Frye, P.J. Tucker, Goran Dragic, Gerald Green, Miles Plumlee. And those aren't end of bench guys; those are our best players. So the team full of 19-22 year olds is just silly.Superbone wrote: You're confusing me. You say it's ridiculous hyperbole but claim that a championship with a roster full of them is possible. I can't wait to hear your list of teams full of predominantly 22-year-olds that won championships.
Agreed - what I'm getting strongest so far is McDonough intends to move up in the draft. We may not have all three 1st rounders when it's all said & done, but we're not checking out of the draft.ShelC wrote:The Suns have entered this offseason thinking they're closer than what they really are. The front office is drunk off of a 37-game stretch of the Bledsoe/Dragic combo, an Archie Goodwin 29-point game, and a Cinderella season, and it's leading to them once again undervaluing and underutilizing the draft after just one season. And they've chosen to operate that way in one of the best draft classes in years. Great timing.
I don't think that's the case and I don't get that sense from the FO.
I'll be happy to see McDonough prove me wrong. But the handwriting is on the wall.TheOriginalOriginal wrote:So. Many. Assumptions.
I agreeShelC wrote:The Suns have entered this offseason thinking they're closer than what they really are. The front office is drunk off of a 37-game stretch of the Bledsoe/Dragic combo, an Archie Goodwin 29-point game, and a Cinderella season, and it's leading to them once again undervaluing and underutilizing the draft after just one season. And they've chosen to operate that way in one of the best draft classes in years. Great timing.
I don't think that's the case and I don't get that sense from the FO.
but I completely OVERstand why ShelC feel like thatCaptain Marv-el wrote:I agreeShelC wrote:The Suns have entered this offseason thinking they're closer than what they really are. The front office is drunk off of a 37-game stretch of the Bledsoe/Dragic combo, an Archie Goodwin 29-point game, and a Cinderella season, and it's leading to them once again undervaluing and underutilizing the draft after just one season. And they've chosen to operate that way in one of the best draft classes in years. Great timing.
I don't think that's the case and I don't get that sense from the FO.
Maybe I'm looking at a diferent wall, but I see the events developing more along the lines of what In2ition says.INFORMER wrote:I'll be happy to see McDonough prove me wrong. But the handwriting is on the wall.TheOriginalOriginal wrote:So. Many. Assumptions.
