NBA Draft Prospects Discussion

[Ring_Wanted]

That's not even in the ballpark to get Cousins. If somehow the Kings accepted it, you take Cousins and run.

By the way, I love their new logo.

[Indy]

By the way, I love their new logo.

Yep. They did it right. Sigh.

[djy2j]

Just curious, but how many of you would do Knight + #3 (or 4 or 5) + Len for Boogie Cousins? I think it's an overpay but I'm pausing to think about it so that means it is probably fairly close to a decent price.

I would absolutely do it. Boogie is probably a top 5 player in the league on a functional team. Those assets you listed are absolutely worth giving up for a player like that.

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The Suns are not a functional team. I love the talent but this would make rebuilding take much longer.

[OE32]

Thoughts on Wade Baldwin at #13? Great size for a PG, quick release, shoots a high percentage on 3 pointers, looks to move the ball. Turnovers are an issue, and his low steal rate concerns me, given his wingspan advantage.

[JCSunsfan]

My rule: Don't trade for assholes unless it's going to make you a contender. Blake won't, and I don't want him.

I fully support this rule.

Count me in too.

[OE32]

OK. It's gotta be Ellenson. 1. Simmons. 2. Ingram. 3. Ellenson. We don't need Hield, Murray, Dunn. Not willing to risk taking Bender or Chriss. Brown ain't nothing. Henry's likely to be on the board when we pick, so that's good. Aaand I think he'll be able to start right away, which is a big bonus.

[OE32]

I posted this on an inferior message board. This place is a bit more high-brow, so perhaps this isn't appropriate, but here's my mock as of today:

1. Philadelphia - B. ingram
2. LA Lakers - B. Simmons
3. Boston - J. Murray
4. Phoenix - H. Ellenson
5. Minnesota - K. Dunn
6. New Orleans - B. Hield
7. Denver - D. Bender
8. Sacramento - J. Brown
9. Toronto - M. Chriss
10. Milwaukee - J. Poeltl
11. Orlando - D. Davis
12. Utah - D. Valentine
13. Phoenix - T. Ulis
14. Chicago - M. Beasley
15. Denver - F. Korkmaz
16. Boston - S. Labissiere
17. Memphis - D. Sabonis
18. Denver - D. Murray
19. Detroit - D. Jackson
20. Indiana - T. Prince
21. Philadelphia - T. Luwawu
22. Boston - A. Zizic
23. Atlanta - B. Johnson
24. Charlotte - D. Jones
25. LA Clippers - D. Stone
26. Philadelphia - A. Barber
27. Toronto - A. Hammons
28. Phoenix - C. Onuaku
29. San Antonio - W. Baldwin
30. Golden State - S. Zimmerman

[Mori Chu]

I just can't get into mock draft stuff before the lottery has even happened.

[Ring_Wanted]

Murray better than Hield and Dunn?

Your #15-16-17 look nice. Luwawu too low, maybe?

[OE32]

Murray better than Hield and Dunn?

Your #15-16-17 look nice. Luwawu too low, maybe?

I think Murray being 3 years younger than Hield is a big deal. I think he's solidly #3.

Luwawu could go anywhere. Chad Ford mentioned yesterday that international scouts have been underwhelmed with him recently. He's 21 and he turns the ball over a lot. If his D is legit, then he could go a lot higher. I just don't know enough.

It becomes a crap shoot in the 20s, as it usually does.

[INFORMER]

Thoughts on Wade Baldwin at #13? Great size for a PG, quick release, shoots a high percentage on 3 pointers, looks to move the ball. Turnovers are an issue, and his low steal rate concerns me, given his wingspan advantage.

I don't think Baldwin is much of a point guard.

[OE32]

Thoughts on Wade Baldwin at #13? Great size for a PG, quick release, shoots a high percentage on 3 pointers, looks to move the ball. Turnovers are an issue, and his low steal rate concerns me, given his wingspan advantage.

I don't think Baldwin is much of a point guard.

I concluded the same.

[Danimal]

It seems Azcentral is already posting mocks http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /83580194/
The issue I can see with trying to move up at any point is essentially the Celtics with their butt load of picks could always offer a better deal than pretty much anyone.

[Danimal]

A useful update on Euro prospects

Although not much use for anyone trying to get a read on Bender

http://www.nbadraft.net/european-stock-watch-4

[JCSunsfan]

For all the clamor about tanking for success, San Antonio is proof that it is not necessary. Yes, they tanked for Tim Duncan, but Tim Duncan has little impact on this year's team. They built their team with mid and late first round picks, free agents, trades, and draft and stash players.

[carey]

For all the clamor about tanking for success, San Antonio is proof that it is not necessary. Yes, they tanked for Tim Duncan, but Tim Duncan has little impact on this year's team. They built their team with mid and late first round picks, free agents, trades, and draft and stash players.

Other than the people that sign with the Spurs in order to play with him?

[Danimal]

If anything the spurs and cavs and spurs showed the best way to tank - for a true super star. Difference is the Spurs have a much better coach and scouting and developed a much better system and culture in place to capitalise on this for sustain success.

[INFORMER]

For all the clamor about tanking for success, San Antonio is proof that it is not necessary. Yes, they tanked for Tim Duncan, but Tim Duncan has little impact on this year's team.

I'm not sure you're making any kind of point.

First, what clamor is there for tanking? I think there is a strong desire to stop chasing mediocrity. And for me personally, I'm a strong proponent of tearing down what isn't working, and purging the roster of pieces that don't help you contend. Is that tanking?

Furthermore, the Spurs haven't been in the position the Suns are in or have been in, at least not in recent history. They went from one franchise, hall of famer to another in Robinson and Duncan, and they have a hall of fame coach on top of that.

If the Suns can had any of that, then I guess there could be a point to be made.

They built their team with mid and late first round picks, free agents, trades, and draft and stash players.

I don't think anyone is against using any of those methods to build a team.

[Ring_Wanted]

Maybe I'm off, but I bet he means clamor in a broad sense. There are other teams in the NBA besides the Suns and there are other Suns boards besides .net as well. Anyway, it's not like tanking has not been 'advised' on here. Rebuilding/tanking or whatever is the meaning behind selling vets, playing kids and aiming for high picks.

However, the Spurs are a prime example of tanking. Perfectly managed (and extremely lucky) tanking, that's it.

[TOO]

The Spurs didn't really tank. They lost Robinson and Person for the whole year and Elliott played like half the season, they just weren't very good w/o 3 of their top players.