Suns release Archie Goodwin

[carey]

Jones is every bit the athlete that Archie is.

Certainly looks like this could be true.

Where's INF with his "so long 29-pointer" post?

[djy2j]

Thought I'd be more upset than I am. Archie showed flashes. But they were the same flashed he showed in year 1 as year 4 or whatever. John Jenkins won't endanger chemistry at least. He still is more of an urban legend. People talk about how he can light it up. What? When? Where?

I've read about Derrick Jones Jr. I still don't know who he is.

[virtual9mm]

At the very least, it means that McD is willing and able to learn from his mistakes.

[Cap]

I am assuming they worked something out with him because someone showed interest but didn't want to give a 2nd rounder. He just wasn't going to find minutes here.

Would they have to give us a pick? We couldn't trade him for a highly conditional option to swap second rounders? Or a dollar in cash?

[JCSunsfan]

Thought I'd be more upset than I am. Archie showed flashes. But they were the same flashed he showed in year 1 as year 4 or whatever. John Jenkins won't endanger chemistry at least. He still is more of an urban legend. People talk about how he can light it up. What? When? Where?

I've read about Derrick Jones Jr. I still don't know who he is.

Archie just is never going to be a shooter. I think that is now obvious. It may not be that he did not try, its just that some people will never ever be able to do it. It was time to move on.

[JCSunsfan]

I am assuming they worked something out with him because someone showed interest but didn't want to give a 2nd rounder. He just wasn't going to find minutes here.

Would they have to give us a pick? We couldn't trade him for a highly conditional option to swap second rounders? Or a dollar in cash?

My guess is that whatever was offered for Archie was not more valuable to the Suns than the cap space freed if he gets claimed off of waivers. So will he be claimed off waivers up by someone? His salary is $2.1 million for this year.

[Cap]

I am assuming they worked something out with him because someone showed interest but didn't want to give a 2nd rounder. He just wasn't going to find minutes here.

Would they have to give us a pick? We couldn't trade him for a highly conditional option to swap second rounders? Or a dollar in cash?

My guess is that whatever was offered for Archie was not more valuable to the Suns than the cap space freed if he gets claimed off of waivers. So will he be claimed off waivers up by someone? His salary is $2.1 million for this year.

We'd get that same cap space if we traded him without taking back salary in the deal. If the goal is to get him from the Suns to Team X with his contract intact, there's no need to go through the waiver system to do it.

Perhaps he has interest from a team that's capped out and plans to sign him for minimum after he clears waivers, leaving us responsible for the difference.

[O_Gardino]

I want to thank you guys for picking up the news slack as a community. My son had a baseball tourney yesterday. They came in second which meant we played 5 games and we were there from 8 in the morning until 10 at night. Then had to drive home. My legs are mush and I kind of slept half the day away today. I'll get the weekly news thread up shortly.

Don't sweat it, Carey. The news threads aren't a job, we just all do this for the fun of it. Usually you do it first because you have a talent for that (and we appreciate it). It's no big deal if you don't get to it. As soon as it starts feeling like an obligation or if you start feeling guilty for not posting the threads, that's a sign that it's time let someone else share the work.

[sunshoopjunky]

I have always felt like Archie was a Bulls type of player if Hoiberg cant teach him to shoot as a SG than nobody can. I was hoping we could swing a trade for Portis before people saw him play in preseason last year. With Valentines ankle maybe that would give him some room behind Wade but it probably is not as good a fit now as what it would have been last year.

[carey]

I have always felt like Archie was a Bulls type of player if Hoiberg cant teach him to shoot as a SG than nobody can. I was hoping we could swing a trade for Portis before people saw him play in preseason last year. With Valentines ankle maybe that would give him some room behind Wade but it probably is not as good a fit now as what it would have been last year.

https://twitter.com/mdepaul88/status/790641429341102080

[Cap]

A trip down memory lane...

Suns Shut Down Any Archie Goodwin Suitors, Keep Him At Core Of Future
JAN 21, 2015 8:42 PM

The Phoenix Suns have made clear to Archie Goodwin and around the NBA that the franchise has the second-year guard as a cornerstone of its future, shutting down interested suitors, league sources told RealGM.

Whenever contacted with interest from major- and minor- market teams, the Suns have shown no willingness to move Goodwin, promising that he’s a major part of their talent core.

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[iLLmatic]

RIP Mr 29 pointer.

[Superbone]

Jenkins is 10x the shooter Goodwin is...

And 1/10th the athlete. But I'll take shooting/good decision making any day.

Jones is every bit the athlete that Archie is.

That's what I hear but I was talking about Jenkins.

[Superbone]

...if Hoiberg cant teach him to shoot as a SG than nobody can.

I had the same thought about Hornacek. Nobody can.

[Superbone]

Archie reminds me of a young Michael Finley but without the jump shot.

[JCSunsfan]

Jenkins is 10x the shooter Goodwin is...

And 1/10th the athlete. But I'll take shooting/good decision making any day.

Jones is every bit the athlete that Archie is.

That's what I hear but I was talking about Jenkins.

Yes. I know you were.

[Nodack]

You had your chance and blew it. Questionable shooting, questionable attitude. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[sunshoopjunky]

...if Hoiberg cant teach him to shoot as a SG than nobody can.

I had the same thought about Hornacek. Nobody can.

LOL

[In2ition]

...if Hoiberg cant teach him to shoot as a SG than nobody can.

I had the same thought about Hornacek. Nobody can.

It doesn't seem that anyone is a good shooting coach or can improve shooting in the NBA besides Engelland.

[Superbone]

You had your chance and blew it. Questionable shooting, questionable attitude. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Ouch! It's true that he's the last remnant of FOE, I believe.