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Some of his highlights on this feed:

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Nbadraft.net has Lonzo Ball moving ahead of Markelle Fultz in their latest mock draft.
1. Josh Jackson
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Markelle Fultz
4. Dennis Smith
5. Harry Giles
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In2ition wrote:Nbadraft.net has Lonzo Ball moving ahead of Markelle Fultz in their latest mock draft.
1. Josh Jackson
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Markelle Fultz
4. Dennis Smith
5. Harry Giles
That site has no value.

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Shabazz wrote:
In2ition wrote:Nbadraft.net has Lonzo Ball moving ahead of Markelle Fultz in their latest mock draft.
1. Josh Jackson
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Markelle Fultz
4. Dennis Smith
5. Harry Giles
That site has no value.
No need to discount it. They do a decent job, as good as anyone else. It's fun to speculate.
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Fultz highlights from Thursday


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Split T wrote:Fultz highlights from Thursday

Omg. He is really good. Definitely doesn't need to be in college. I think I saw everything a PG needs to do in those highlights. Step backs, hesitations, outlet passes, drive and dish, drive and drop off, 3-pointers, steals, dunks. That kid is legit.
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Split T wrote:Fultz highlights from Thursday

:shock: I want.
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Those highlights are sexy, but the college 3-point line is stupidly close. Can't tell how their shooting will translate to the NBA.

Also, how many guys are we going to draft with "Mark___" names? Markieff, Marcus, Marquese, Markelle?

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Those highlights are sexy, but the college 3-point line is stupidly close. Can't tell how their shooting will translate to the NBA.
It's a valid concern, but he does so much else that I'm not worried about him being an elite shooter. I think he'll be a good shooter and maybe a great one. He does just about everything great, no weaknesses, lots of similarities to Brandon Roy, without the knee issues.

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Suck as we might, I'm not getting my hopes up about the #1 pick.
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I'm not impressed when I see Markelle compared to a taller Steve Francis. He can be much better, imo. I like him too, but really like those players that make everyone better. Hopefully if he's in the Suns future, he will do that.
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Split T wrote:Fultz highlights from Thursday

Meh, he sweats a lot and doesn't smile. I'm looking for a guy who keeps his cool and projects and friendly, joyful demeanor.


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In2ition wrote:I'm not impressed when I see Markelle compared to a taller Steve Francis. He can be much better, imo. I like him too, but really like those players that make everyone better. Hopefully if he's in the Suns future, he will do that.
Who compared him to Steve Francis? I don't see that comparison.

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O_Gardino wrote:Meh, he sweats a lot and doesn't smile. I'm looking for a guy who keeps his cool and projects and friendly, joyful demeanor.
Hopefully we will test each player's high-fiving before making our draft decision.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:Meh, he sweats a lot and doesn't smile. I'm looking for a guy who keeps his cool and projects and friendly, joyful demeanor.
Hopefully we will test each player's high-fiving before making our draft decision.
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Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:I'm not impressed when I see Markelle compared to a taller Steve Francis. He can be much better, imo. I like him too, but really like those players that make everyone better. Hopefully if he's in the Suns future, he will do that.
Who compared him to Steve Francis? I don't see that comparison.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... compare-to
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In2ition wrote:
Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:I'm not impressed when I see Markelle compared to a taller Steve Francis. He can be much better, imo. I like him too, but really like those players that make everyone better. Hopefully if he's in the Suns future, he will do that.
Who compared him to Steve Francis? I don't see that comparison.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... compare-to

Interesting, I still don't see the Steve Francis comparison. Francis was like Marbury or a suped up Bledsoe. Fultz can score, but he looks to be a very willing passer with good vision. He had 16 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks on Sunday.

From an article on the game

“Markelle told me after the game: ‘I just felt, coach, the way we were going, I didn’t need to score a whole lot. I was just looking to set my guys up because of the way they were playing,’ ” Romar said. “That’s the beauty of Markelle Fultz. He plays the game the right way and he’s not going out there trying to break records when he’s out there playing or make sure that he solidifies his draft status."

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-h ... n-arizona/

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Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:
Split T wrote:
In2ition wrote:I'm not impressed when I see Markelle compared to a taller Steve Francis. He can be much better, imo. I like him too, but really like those players that make everyone better. Hopefully if he's in the Suns future, he will do that.
Who compared him to Steve Francis? I don't see that comparison.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... compare-to

Interesting, I still don't see the Steve Francis comparison. Francis was like Marbury or a suped up Bledsoe. Fultz can score, but he looks to be a very willing passer with good vision. He had 16 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks on Sunday.

From an article on the game

“Markelle told me after the game: ‘I just felt, coach, the way we were going, I didn’t need to score a whole lot. I was just looking to set my guys up because of the way they were playing,’ ” Romar said. “That’s the beauty of Markelle Fultz. He plays the game the right way and he’s not going out there trying to break records when he’s out there playing or make sure that he solidifies his draft status."

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-h ... n-arizona/
The thing I like about Markelle is that he trusted the system and didn't try to rush the process when he was in high school. He became a 5 star recruit 2 years after he was on sophomore on JV. He seems more willing to put his head down, do his work and get better.
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Can someone explain the recruit system? What makes someone 5-star vs. 4 star? Is there some sort of actual scoring system or is this just a qualitative way to describe how good a player is? Thanks.

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pickle wrote:Can someone explain the recruit system? What makes someone 5-star vs. 4 star? Is there some sort of actual scoring system or is this just a qualitative way to describe how good a player is? Thanks.
Honestly, I think it's just a scouting system by several sources over time. I don't think there is a qualitative scientific way of grading the player, totally subjective IMO. If you get to watch enough of the players, you will be able to separate them by talent in some way. Athleticism seems to weigh in a lot.
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