Game Day: Suns (6-16) @ Lakers (10-14), Fri 12/9/16

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Did Knight just hit that full court shot after the buzzer? It really sounded like it went in.

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EDC wrote:Did Knight just hit that full court shot after the buzzer? It really sounded like it went in.

He did. Put it in the highlight reel!
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”

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On the play in which Randle fouled Knight and Randle got injured, I was praying to God for Knight to have suffered an injury as well but of course he just got right back up.

Fucking bitch.

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da_suns_fan wrote:I would trade Len for a bag of chips.
He says on the night Len approaches a triple double...
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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Gladiator wrote:Really nice bounce pass from Len to a cutting Booker... that looked like a proper basketball team!
Tonight was the best the team looked in a long time. I couldn't tell if we were playing better or the Lakers defense was that bad.
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Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?

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carey wrote:Maybe defend Lou Williams.
He was en fuego. Still, Barbosa played really good defense on him to end the game.
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EDC wrote:The trifecta is in the game. Chandler, PJ, and Knight.
We survived!
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carey wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:NBA officiating still like the WWE I see.

Regardless, Book was off all night it seemed
Scored his career high last time we played them. I think his entire problem this year is when he presses. He just doesn't seem to be playing in the flow of the game.
Looks that way to me too.
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Superbone wrote:
carey wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:NBA officiating still like the WWE I see.

Regardless, Book was off all night it seemed
Scored his career high last time we played them. I think his entire problem this year is when he presses. He just doesn't seem to be playing in the flow of the game.
Looks that way to me too.
Congrats on post #6669. The post of the pervy devil. You've earned it! :twisted:
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carey wrote:
Superbone wrote:
carey wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:NBA officiating still like the WWE I see.

Regardless, Book was off all night it seemed
Scored his career high last time we played them. I think his entire problem this year is when he presses. He just doesn't seem to be playing in the flow of the game.
Looks that way to me too.
Congrats on post #6669. The post of the pervy devil. You've earned it! :twisted:
LOL! Never heard that one before. Gotta get off it quick!
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UglyTruth wrote:Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?
Knight: -19
Suns w/o Knight: +23

Typical.
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Bled ws really good, particularly in that first half.

You know I haven't caught as many suns games this year as in the past, Is Eric's decision making improving? It atleast seemed like it tonight. Not as many 1 on 3's or driving with no intention in mind.
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Cap wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?
Knight: -19
Suns w/o Knight: +23

Typical.
On the season, it's:

Knight: -191
Suns w/o Knight: +36
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Sunsfan4life wrote:You know I haven't caught as many suns games this year as in the past, Is Eric's decision making improving? It atleast seemed like it tonight. Not as many 1 on 3's or driving with no intention in mind.
Yes, it's better. I haven't seen him jump in the air with nowhere to go lately too. He's making strides in the right direction.
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6:30 Bender dance
7:12 What was Chandler doing?

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Cap wrote:
Cap wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?
Knight: -19
Suns w/o Knight: +23

Typical.
On the season, it's:

Knight: -191
Suns w/o Knight: +36
That is staggering.

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Cap wrote:
Cap wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?
Knight: -19
Suns w/o Knight: +23

Typical.
On the season, it's:

Knight: -191
Suns w/o Knight: +36
How do the rest of the rotation looks like on this stat? He should be dead last on the team, but to be fair, I would need to see how many players can claim a positive number on a team that barely outscores it opponent during 24 minutes a game (the time BASE rests on the bench)

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Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Cap wrote:
Cap wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:Guess who the worst +/- plus on the Suns was. Anyone?
Knight: -19
Suns w/o Knight: +23

Typical.
On the season, it's:

Knight: -191
Suns w/o Knight: +36
How do the rest of the rotation looks like on this stat? He should be dead last on the team, but to be fair, I would need to see how many players can claim a positive number on a team that barely outscores it opponent during 24 minutes a game (the time BASE rests on the bench)
Dead last on the team? He's dead last in the whole league, by a comfortable margin.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nba/stat ... tics/2016/ has Knight at -205 on the season. Next worst in the league is Evan Turner at -180. Next worst on the team is Alex Len at -135.

http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/ ... ode=Totals has the Knight-Len combo at -139, which means Len is actually a +4 when he's not playing with Knight.

Bledsoe is -100 on the season, and -106 with Knight, which means he, too, is a net positive when not saddled with Knight.

Tucker is -117 with Knight and -65 overall (+52 w/o Knight).

And so on. Everyone on the team has an ugly +/-, until you subtract the Knight minutes.

The other players have to be aware of this, but have resisted the temptation I assume exists to use it as an excuse. Nobody every points out, "Hey, I'm actually doing alright when I'm not playing with Knight."
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Here's a chart:

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       Overall  Knight   Day
Len       -135    -139    +4      
Bledsoe   -100    -106    +6
Booker     -86     -78    -8
Chriss     -84     -73   -11
Warren     -74     -73    -1
Tucker     -65    -117   +52
Dudley     -33     -52   +19
Barbosa    -18     -64   +46
Chandler   -13     -41   +28
Bender      -4     -46   +42
Ulis       +10     -34   +44
Williams   +19      -5   +24
Booker, Chriss and Warren are the only players with a negative +/- in their non-Knight minutes.
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