Game Day: Suns (11-25) @ Mavericks (11-24), Thurs 1/5/17

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The Bobster wrote:Len/Chandler - 41 Min, 7/14 FG, 3/4 FT, 23 Reb, 17 Pts
Nowitzki/Bogut - 44 Min, 5/15 FG, 0/0 FT, 7 Reb, 13 Pts
Dirk is shooting about 38% from the field. Ugh.

Len took advantage of the defensively challenged Mavs post ...
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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Shabazz wrote:Our games are really, really boring. They're becoming a burden to watch.
Correct. I was looking for these exact words. I watch every game(try to) but lately I have found myself paying less and less attention. They aren't fun to watch. Bledsoe running an offense is nails on a chalkboard.
specialsauce wrote:All I need to see is the box score that shows that Tucker played more than Warren, Chandler played more than Len, Knight played over Ulis. I couldn't give two s*** that we won. In fact, in every instance that these three things occur, I hope we lose badly.
34 mins for Tucker off the bench. Sneaky move Watson. Give Warren back his spot but make sure PJ still gets the same mins.

Knight had a decent game. Now sit him until a trade please.

Yay 2 game win streak against teams worse than us! Cheers to delaying the rebuild another game!
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Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I saw a lot of extra effort out of Knight tonight, but I didn't see any improved defense. Just activity.

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Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I got on some people's case early in the year for not enjoying the wins when we get them. Now I've gone over to the dark side. Instead of happy for the win, I'm genuinely mad at Bled for the way he played down the stretch.
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Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I saw a lot of extra effort out of Knight tonight, but I didn't see any improved defense. Just activity.
Then I don't know what to tell you. It was the best defense he played all year and it had an impact on the game. I think a lot of fans have blinders on when it comes to Knight. I can't really blame them due to his past performance.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I got on some people's case early in the year for not enjoying the wins when we get them. Now I've gone over to the dark side. Instead of happy for the win, I'm genuinely mad at Bled for the way he played down the stretch.
It's funny. When Lillard, Westbrook, and Harden do the exact same thing, they're heros.
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Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I got on some people's case early in the year for not enjoying the wins when we get them. Now I've gone over to the dark side. Instead of happy for the win, I'm genuinely mad at Bled for the way he played down the stretch.
It's funny. When Lillard, Westbrook, and Harden do the exact same thing, they're heros.
It is absolutely critical to have a guy on your team where you can say, "go get me a bucket." And Bledsoe did that last night to ensure the win. I don't fault him for that at all. Did he look off everyone and just do it himself? Yes. Is that good team ball? Of course not. But that is OK from time to time to close out a game.

The problem is that we (most of our players) play that way all game, including Booker and Bledsoe.

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Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I saw a lot of extra effort out of Knight tonight, but I didn't see any improved defense. Just activity.

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The Bobster wrote:
Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I saw a lot of extra effort out of Knight tonight, but I didn't see any improved defense. Just activity.

"Never mistake activity for achievement."

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Am I crazy? Or did others see the same? I saw him trying hard at times, but it just didn't translate to good defense.

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No, he wan't playing particularly good defense. Sure, he put more effort into it, which might make Watson happy, but it doesn't make the team any better in the long run - especially if it keeps Knight in a Suns uniform.
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So, I'm the crazy one. OK. I don't care to dispute and debate you guys so I'll leave it at that.
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Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wow. A bunch of sad sacks on a winning night.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Knight's improved defense tonight. He was going after it hard on the defensive end and picking up full court defensively. He earned his extended playing time tonight.

The Mavericks announcers had nice things to say about Booker and Len.
I got on some people's case early in the year for not enjoying the wins when we get them. Now I've gone over to the dark side. Instead of happy for the win, I'm genuinely mad at Bled for the way he played down the stretch.
It's funny. When Lillard, Westbrook, and Harden do the exact same thing, they're heros.
It is absolutely critical to have a guy on your team where you can say, "go get me a bucket." And Bledsoe did that last night to ensure the win. I don't fault him for that at all. Did he look off everyone and just do it himself? Yes. Is that good team ball? Of course not. But that is OK from time to time to close out a game.

The problem is that we (most of our players) play that way all game, including Booker and Bledsoe.
I really should have just enjoyed the win and woken up my kids to give them high fives.
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I enjoyed the win. You guys get way too critical of everything. I didnt hate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe took over because he had the hot hand. He's been our best player. I see progress in our team. The bigs dominated the boards. Len looked good on offense and we out rebounded them by 20+ boards.

I won't go into it anymore. We won and I am not going to cry about it.
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Nodack wrote:I enjoyed the win. You guys get way too critical of everything. I didnt hate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe took over because he had the hot hand. He's been our best player. I see progress in our team. The bigs dominated the boards. Len looked good on offense and we out rebounded them by 20+ boards.

I won't go into it anymore. We won and I am not going to cry about it.
Thanks Nodack. I'm glad I'm not the only one around here that only sees the negative in everything.

I might take a break from the site for a while.
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Superbone wrote:
Nodack wrote:I enjoyed the win. You guys get way too critical of everything. I didnt hate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe took over because he had the hot hand. He's been our best player. I see progress in our team. The bigs dominated the boards. Len looked good on offense and we out rebounded them by 20+ boards.

I won't go into it anymore. We won and I am not going to cry about it.
Thanks Nodack. I'm glad I'm not the only one around here that only sees the negative in everything.

I might take a break from the site for a while.
Are you going to take a break from the team? The site is the only thing that makes Suns fandom worthwhile these days.
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Superbone wrote:
Nodack wrote:I enjoyed the win. You guys get way too critical of everything. I didnt hate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe took over because he had the hot hand. He's been our best player. I see progress in our team. The bigs dominated the boards. Len looked good on offense and we out rebounded them by 20+ boards.

I won't go into it anymore. We won and I am not going to cry about it.
Thanks Nodack. I'm glad I'm not the only one around here that only sees the negative in everything.

I might take a break from the site for a while.
What if you just put all the rest of us on your ignore list for a month. :D

I'd hate to think we drove you away with our bitching. You are one of the few sane people around here.
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I feel you. We all need to take breaks sometimes. 7 years of losing is not fun.
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Looking at some positives
Chandler and Len proved very solid
Len crashing the offensive glass
Chandler good rebounding numbers, outplayed bogut which should be good for his trade value

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Nodack wrote:I enjoyed the win. You guys get way too critical of everything. I didnt hate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe took over because he had the hot hand. He's been our best player. I see progress in our team. The bigs dominated the boards. Len looked good on offense and we out rebounded them by 20+ boards.

I won't go into it anymore. We won and I am not going to cry about it.
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specialsauce wrote: shortsighted view man
Because of the win itself or the people it came from? I'll agree we need to use the kids and clean house, btw.

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