Didn't they basically split the minutes equally among everyone there?In2ition wrote:It could be Isaac. I think it's Fox though. BTW, I know Isaac didn't drive much to the hoop or handle the ball, but he was a pg early in high school prior to a big growth spurt. Also, looking at his hs work, he took people off the dribble, so he can do it. Could have been held back a bit at FSU.Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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Is it bad that I want us to take Fox so we can finally get rid of Bledsoe? Also, if Porzingis is available for Chris's and our 4th according to the NY paper, why haven't we pulled the trigger on that?
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I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.Indy wrote:What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?INFORMER wrote:I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.O_Gardino wrote:Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
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Yep, just people trying to find the next dray and seeing someone about the same sizeIn2ition wrote:I think it's a bit of the undersized 4 with some outside shooting skills that people make the leap to Draymond.INFORMER wrote:Where is this Draymond Green stuff coming from? I don't think he is anything like Draymond.ShelC wrote:Semi scares me as the wrong kind of tweener. Seems like an undersized college 4 without the real perimeter skills to play both positions. Undersized for the NBA 4, not skilled enough for the NBA 3. Teams looking for the next Draymond will make a mistake with players like this.
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That, I'm unaware of. Interesting if that's the case. Not hugely impressed with Leonard Hamilton's coaching. Not a hater, but not a fan either.Indy wrote:Didn't they basically split the minutes equally among everyone there?In2ition wrote:It could be Isaac. I think it's Fox though. BTW, I know Isaac didn't drive much to the hoop or handle the ball, but he was a pg early in high school prior to a big growth spurt. Also, looking at his hs work, he took people off the dribble, so he can do it. Could have been held back a bit at FSU.Indy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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I guess I meant if we are going to keep Bledsoe, Ullis and Knight, no way we take him.INFORMER wrote:I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.Indy wrote:What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?INFORMER wrote:I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.O_Gardino wrote:Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
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What do you think of Dennis Smith INF?
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Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2ndIndy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.INFORMER wrote:I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.Indy wrote:What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?INFORMER wrote:I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.O_Gardino wrote:Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.carey wrote:New video from DX on Ntilikina. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/fra ... ysis-6054/
"There are 3 rules I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep, never play cards with a guy with the same first name as a city & never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Everything else is cream cheese."
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I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.Split T wrote:Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2ndIndy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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Like at the beginning.In2ition wrote:I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.INFORMER wrote:I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.Indy wrote:What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?INFORMER wrote:I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.O_Gardino wrote:
Thanks for the link. I still like his fit next to Booker a lot. Of course, everyone sounds good at draft time, but this is a big defender who can play at his spot now and grow into a bigger role as he matures. Obvs, I wouldn't take him with the 4, but I would be happy to get him + something.
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And Green, right?Indy wrote:I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.Split T wrote:Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2ndIndy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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Before there was a beginning.Indy wrote:Like at the beginning.In2ition wrote:I can agree with that all day long. I like Bledsoe and think he's the best player on the Suns, but I'm convinced that he needs to be moved today or tomorrow. Got to give you credit INF, you were on this train way way early.INFORMER wrote:I would hate to allow Bledsoe's presence to influence how the Suns drafted. I'm generally against passing on guys because of a player on the roster that doesn't move the needle.Indy wrote:What if we have no intention of trading Bledsoe?INFORMER wrote:
I'd have no problem taking Ntilikina at #4.
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I think that was for 3 from Boston. Not sure what Sac will do. Probably something stupid.
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SAC is a bit of a wildcard, but I think they really want fox.Indy wrote:I can see sac giving them 5 for LMA.Split T wrote:Luckily I don't think they have the assets to get Isaac. I'm leaning slightly towards him as my pick. Jackson an incredibly close 2ndIndy wrote:I have a bad feeling that the Spurs are going to get Isaac and turn him into a stud.
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Especially if the Suns take Fox.Indy wrote:I think that was for 3 from Boston. Not sure what Sac will do. Probably something stupid.
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I think they'd gladly take Jackson if we take fox
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I just hope we draft someone we want instead of drafting someone we hope someone else wants more.
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Agreed. No more Tyler Ennis debacles.Indy wrote:I just hope we draft someone we want instead of drafting someone we hope someone else wants more.
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I think Josh Jackson is the superior talent to both of them, but his character issues and being from Kansas scare me.Superbone wrote:Thanks. And where would Jackson fit in there?INFORMER wrote:There is something to like and dislike about both.Superbone wrote:I'm really curious to hear your favorites at pick 4, INF. Particularly, Tatum vs. Isaac.
Tatum is a shot-maker, but I worry about what else he can bring to the table at the pro level. I question his toughness.
Issac looks more like a novelty than a legit prospect. He has above average handle, seems to have good awareness on the offensive end, but I have doubts that it will ever add up to anything substantial at the pro level.
I wouldn't be upset with either, but I can't say either one moves the needle for me.