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Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:30 pm
by Shabazz
Cap wrote:
Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/922208637774262272
Sounds like Bob needs a hug.
Or Earl needs to do some arts & crafts.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:32 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:
Cap wrote:
Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/922208637774262272
Sounds like Bob needs a hug.
Or Earl needs to do some arts & crafts.
Yep, I'd think a collage would be in order.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:44 pm
by Wally_West
Hey! Making macaroni pictures can be very therapeutic!!

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:46 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Sarver can only blame himself for being a cheap POS and not paying for a real coach.

He should meet with himself and decide if he actually cares about having a successful franchise.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:55 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:Sarver can only blame himself for being a cheap POS and not paying for a real coach.

He should meet with himself and decide if he actually cares about having a successful franchise.
LOL!

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:29 pm
by Mori Chu
The thing about cheapskates is, they want it both ways. He'd probably only want to pay a half bil to buy an NBA franchise, but if you asked him to sell the Suns, he'd want $2bil because that's what the Clippers sold for, or some bunk like that. He will probably not sell for a long time because these owners get addicted to the attention and fame of being pro sports owners.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:08 pm
by O_Gardino
n4th4n wrote:It is very easy to point at the Brandon Knight trade as the worst transaction of the McDo era. I think that hiring Watson without even interviewing any other candidates might actually equal or even exceed the BK trade in terms of gross misconduct. At least the BK trade had a defensible rationale behind it. There was NO defensible reason for only interviewing a single coaching candidate.
I still don't know why we ditched Horacek.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:10 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Who was it who decided not to do any interviews for coaches when we hired Earl Watson? McDo or Saver? Or both together?
I'd say both together but moreso $arver. Yet again a huge mistake that will haunt the franchise for a long time.
Do you guys remember how Sarver himself went down to the locker room to fire Horancek's assistant coaches? Watson reports to Sarver and was hired by Sarver.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:11 pm
by Superbone
O_Gardino wrote:
n4th4n wrote:It is very easy to point at the Brandon Knight trade as the worst transaction of the McDo era. I think that hiring Watson without even interviewing any other candidates might actually equal or even exceed the BK trade in terms of gross misconduct. At least the BK trade had a defensible rationale behind it. There was NO defensible reason for only interviewing a single coaching candidate.
I still don't know why we ditched Horacek.
In hindsight, it would have been better to keep him but it still wouldn't have been a good long term solution.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:12 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:It's preposterous that Sarver said he expects the team to play .500 ball this season. Absolutely no one would have projected us to win half of our games this year.

I just worry that the wrong expectations will cause pressure on McDo to go trade some important assets like picks for win-now veterans who don't fit our goals.
I agree that when I heard that I knew Sarver was delusional. I think he really believed it too. I wonder what he is thinking now?
Told Ya So. He thinks he has a team that can compete for a playoff spot. Whenever McD talks to the media about how young teams rarely make the payoffs, but you never know, it's part of Ryan's internal political campaign to change Sraver's mind and get a little more control of the roster.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:16 pm
by O_Gardino
1tinsoldier wrote:i wasn't able to watch last season but the word was: the Suns were better than their record, Bledsoe had his best year, Booker might become a superstar, Chris and/or Bender could breakout.

We added one of the top draft pics, We lost little, and the coach is the same.

Can someone tell me what happened?
What are you seeing now that you didn't see 6 months ago and what might explain it?
My opinion is that there are a couple of things at play here:
1. We stopped playing Dudley and Barbosa. Those vets know how to play regardless of what the coach coaches.
2. We dropped the last remnants of Hornacek's offense.
3. The existing guys see through Watson, and aren't going to pull his wight any more.
4. Last season we had Knight for a scape goat. This team doesn't have a scape goat.
5. We've been saying that the Suns are probably better than their record for 3 years now.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:17 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/922208637774262272
Sarver is the hiring and firing manager of the coaches.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 pm
by O_Gardino
Flagrant Fowl wrote:Sarver can only blame himself for being a cheap POS and not paying for a real coach.

He should meet with himself and decide if he actually cares about having a successful franchise.
Exactly. Can he swallow his pride enough to let the basketball people run the basketball side and he can stick to the business side?

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:40 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:The thing about cheapskates is, they want it both ways. He'd probably only want to pay a half bil to buy an NBA franchise, but if you asked him to sell the Suns, he'd want $2bil because that's what the Clippers sold for, or some bunk like that. He will probably not sell for a long time because these owners get addicted to the attention and fame of being pro sports owners.
The biggest issue is that, in his mind, he doesn't realize he's the problem. Ego is a son of a bitch.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:43 pm
by JustWinBaby
It sounds as if Triano is not even close to a good interim coach. If it really his offense that we are running how can we expect anything to change?

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:26 pm
by virtual9mm
And so...Watson rides off into the sunset. I thought that he was a great interim coach but a poor hire for the full role.

Triano seems to have the reputation of being fairly decent...but a horrible defensive coach.

Let's see how the young players respond.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:29 pm
by Superbone
JustWinBaby wrote:It sounds as if Triano is not even close to a good interim coach. If it really his offense that we are running how can we expect anything to change?
We can't.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:03 am
by Uncle_Gene
BTW I chose"In the first 20 games of the season."

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:30 pm
by Indy
Cap wrote:
The Bobster wrote:Bad Owner? Check.
Bad GM? Check.
Bad Head Coach? Check.
Bad roster? Check.

Yeah, we've got all the bases covered.
Judging by the empty seats and the cheering for opponents, perhaps we should add bad fans to the list.

But we have one of the best radio play-by-play men in the league. I guess that's something.
I have a hard time saying it is the fans' fault there are so many empty seats. Why keep paying for a product that is one of the worst in the league, and has been for years? And those seats 8-10 rows up you see on TV, are $300 a pop. Over 41 games that is a ton for a pair of tickets to watch your team not show ANY growth from game to game.

Re: Watson Watch 2017 <dramatic into music>

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:46 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
Cap wrote:
The Bobster wrote:Bad Owner? Check.
Bad GM? Check.
Bad Head Coach? Check.
Bad roster? Check.

Yeah, we've got all the bases covered.
Judging by the empty seats and the cheering for opponents, perhaps we should add bad fans to the list.

But we have one of the best radio play-by-play men in the league. I guess that's something.
I have a hard time saying it is the fans' fault there are so many empty seats. Why keep paying for a product that is one of the worst in the league, and has been for years? And those seats 8-10 rows up you see on TV, are $300 a pop. Over 41 games that is a ton for a pair of tickets to watch your team not show ANY growth from game to game.
Yeah, that's a bad investment for anybody good with their money. Better to just watch them at home and suffer in silence. ;)