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Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:10 am
by INFORMER
TOO wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:15 am
Split T wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:12 am
From what I’ve heard, Green is actually a very hard worker. A lot of his issues could just be explained by having to be the primary ball handler on a bad team(until this year, but the team was still mostly a defensive team).
This is probably a bigger deal than people realize. He's never had any help, the best offensive player he's played with is who, Sengun? He's not taking any attention away from Green, and he also clogs the lane, having Booker be the main focus should really allow him some offensive freedoms he's never had.
I don't think that bodes well for playing with Mark Williams. But yeah, him and Sengun had some compatibility issues. Green's best stretch of basketball was in 2024 when Sengun went down for the season. A lot of the talk here was that he finally arrived, and maybe you need to look at moving Sengun. But after a blistering March, Green fell apart apart in April. So questions persisted. But the front office showed their true feelings when Sengun landed a bigger contract than Green. Then in 24-25, the team success overshadowed all of the advanced stats that indicated the team was better when Green was off the floor, but all that was exposed versus the Warriors.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:13 am
by INFORMER
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:19 pm
It’s a bit concerning that we are more than 3 days into free agency and the Suns have not signed a single NBA free agent.
The Suns basically have a full roster.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:14 am
by INFORMER
TOO wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:03 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:53 pm
Just tell Brad to stay home for the year if he's not going to waive his NTC to a team willing to trade for him.

Revisit it next offseason when he's an expiring
Players association won't let that happen.
The Rockets basically did it with John Wall.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:45 am
by INFORMER

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:00 am
by TOO
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:45 am
Him blowing past Dort at the end gives me some hope lol.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:03 am
by specialsauce
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:13 am
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:19 pm
It’s a bit concerning that we are more than 3 days into free agency and the Suns have not signed a single NBA free agent.
The Suns basically have a full roster.
My hope is that we flip Royce and Allen for draft capital and a younger guard

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:19 am
by Mori Chu
Grayson Allen in particular needs to go IMO.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:19 am
by INFORMER
TOO wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:00 am
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:45 am
Him blowing past Dort at the end gives me some hope lol.
Yeah, if you want hope, that is the performance to watch.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:22 am
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:19 am
Grayson Allen in particular needs to go IMO.
Definitely would get rid of Royce first for me, Allen is the best shooter on the team.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:14 am
by Split T
I think the hope for green is you take away his in between game. I know that highlight video showed him hitting a lot of mid range pull-ups, but he’s pretty awful at those shots generally. Think I heard he shot 36% on them last year. That’s abysmal.

He won’t be asked to create as much offense for himself and out of PNR alongside Booker. He has decent catch and shoot numbers and does get to the rim. I’d just love to shift more of his offense to off ball shooting, cutting, attacking closeouts…or 2nd side pnr. Increase the 3s and rim attempts and drop the mid range shots. Not sure if it’ll happen, but that’s the vision I think.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:15 am
by JeremyG
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:13 am
JeremyG wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:19 pm
It’s a bit concerning that we are more than 3 days into free agency and the Suns have not signed a single NBA free agent.
The Suns basically have a full roster.
Which is also concerning. There are several players they need to get rid of (waive or trade).

You can carry up to 21 players in the offseason.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:18 am
by Split T
They’ve got time…I get impatient too as a fan, but rushing into things has been one of our issues, so I’m fine that they are taking their time.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:29 pm
by Split T
If the Lakers want Wiggins(which is kind of hilarious), I think a 3-way deal with us, LA, and Miami could get us off Beal and get us under the 2nd apron with less dead cap.

Beal to Miami(plus whatever draft capital LA gives them)
Wiggins to LA
Rozier, Vincent, Vanderbilt to Phoenix.

We waive and stretch Rozier and take the 8.8 million dollar hit for 3 years. We’d be just over 200 million in salary. Under the 2nd apron, but above the tax. Dumping Richards and one of Royce, Vincent, or Vanderbilt elsewhere could get us all the way under the tax at that point, but we’d have all year to do that.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:56 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:45 am
Nice video but that narrator made me feel like I was back in elementary school watching a nature film documentary.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:57 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:19 am
Grayson Allen in particular needs to go IMO.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen. We loved him in year one.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:01 pm
by Shabazz
TOO wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:22 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:19 am
Grayson Allen in particular needs to go IMO.
Definitely would get rid of Royce first for me, Allen is the best shooter on the team.
I feel the same way. Especially if Beal is being bought out.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:11 pm
by Carno
Grayson does not need to go. He had a down year, but I'd be happy to have him back. Now, I do think he can bring the Suns something valuable In a trade, and if thay happens, good riddance. However, under no circumstance is he a "must go.". He at.least.tried last season. I'd rather see royce gone in a trade.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:24 pm
by Split T
We’re calling it a down year, but Grayson still shot 43% from 3

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:24 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:24 pm
We’re calling it a down year, but Grayson still shot 43% from 3
Yeah, he's an elite shooter, can't just throw that away.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:40 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:24 pm
Split T wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:24 pm
We’re calling it a down year, but Grayson still shot 43% from 3
Yeah, he's an elite shooter, can't just throw that away.
With a game winner tie-er (We won in OT) I got to see in person.