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I like Grayson Allen. But if we are keeping Green, I don't think we have room for him. And he's probably our most tradeable asset right now and could net us a pick and some cap savings. I personally would rather trade Grayson than Royce because Grayson is a worse defender and can't as easily play the 3. Trading one of the two seems like a good idea.

I like him as a deadeye shooter and now that we have shotblockers behind him, he may be less of a defensive liability. But he may also have less value on a not-so-great team like ours. He's a luxury for better teams that have two legit guys who are the focus of the defense and are rim threats where he can get those open looks on kickouts. He was a good add in theory with our Big 3, the talent mix just wasn't there.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:45 pm

I like Grayson Allen. But if we are keeping Green, I don't think we have room for him.

Why not? He’s a backup 2 and we don’t have any others. We also don’t have anyone else who is nearly as consistent of a 3-point shooter.

Royce is way more redundant with Dunn, Brooks and NHD on board.

We’re also starving for shot creation and Grayson is much better than Royce at that.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:23 pm

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:45 pm

I like Grayson Allen. But if we are keeping Green, I don't think we have room for him.

Why not? He’s a backup 2 and we don’t have any others. We also don’t have anyone else who is nearly as consistent of a 3-point shooter.

Royce is way more redundant with Dunn, Brooks and NHD on board.

We’re also starving for shot creation and Grayson is much better than Royce at that.

Well said.

I don't want either of them. Royce is short and extremely streaky from 3 and doesn't offer anything else despite this board thinking he's good at defense.

Grayson is elite from 3, but there's a lot of players out there that shoot 40% from 3 nowadays. And he makes Royce look like he's a good defender

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:33 pm

I don't want either of them. Royce is short and extremely streaky from 3 and doesn't offer anything else despite this board thinking he's good at defense.

Grayson is elite from 3, but there's a lot of players out there that shoot 40% from 3 nowadays. And he makes Royce look like he's a good defender

Not a lot on our team though

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:33 pm

I don't want either of them. Royce is short and extremely streaky from 3 and doesn't offer anything else despite this board thinking he's good at defense.

Grayson is elite from 3, but there's a lot of players out there that shoot 40% from 3 nowadays. And he makes Royce look like he's a good defender

How many guys shoot over 40% on at least 5 per game?

There was 20 last year, and 4 on our team haha

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:00 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:33 pm

I don't want either of them. Royce is short and extremely streaky from 3 and doesn't offer anything else despite this board thinking he's good at defense.

Grayson is elite from 3, but there's a lot of players out there that shoot 40% from 3 nowadays. And he makes Royce look like he's a good defender

How many guys shoot over 40% on at least 5 per game?

I could easily shoot 40% with 3s in my younger days. Maybe closer to 50% tbh.

…wait, you’re talking about basketball?

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:17 pm

There was 20 last year, and 4 on our team haha

We had 4 guys who shot 5 3s per game at 40%?

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:17 pm

There was 20 last year, and 4 on our team haha

We had 4 guys who shot 5 3s per game at 40%?

Ya, KD, Grayson, Royce, and Tyus…only 2 guys shot better than Grayson on the list though and it was KD and Zach LaVine

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:47 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:28 pm

Staying out of the lottery is the priority this season.

Honestly that doesn't accomplish anything. Might make Ishbia feel better.

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:20 pm

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:17 pm

There was 20 last year, and 4 on our team haha

We had 4 guys who shot 5 3s per game at 40%?

Ya, KD, Grayson, Royce, and Tyus…only 2 guys shot better than Grayson on the list though and it was KD and Zach LaVine

Hot damn

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:36 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:20 pm

TOO wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:17 pm

There was 20 last year, and 4 on our team haha

We had 4 guys who shot 5 3s per game at 40%?

Ya, KD, Grayson, Royce, and Tyus…only 2 guys shot better than Grayson on the list though and it was KD and Zach LaVine

Hot damn

Led to a lot of success and wins.

Funny enough if you look at fg% in different zones, we led the league in at rim fg%, led in long 2s(by a mile), think we were 2nd from midrange, and 3rd from 3. It’s kinda mind boggling, but then you remember the defense and the fact that we shot way too many mid range/long 2s

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:06 pm

Funny enough if you look at fg% in different zones, we led the league in at rim fg%, led in long 2s(by a mile), think we were 2nd from midrange, and 3rd from 3. It’s kinda mind boggling, but then you remember the defense and the fact that we shot way too many mid range/long 2s

Strange. I don't remember any defense.