Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

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I’m sure they’d drop the games down from 82 if they added a mid season tournament

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I'd imagine they'd cut the number of regular season games down and replace those with the tourney games. 65 game regular season or something and then however many tourney games packaged up as a separate entity.

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Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 am
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The in-season tournament is the most awful idea ever. It ruins the sport. You’re gonna have two championships every year? Gross.
That’s a little dramatic haha…just don’t watch it and pretend it doesn’t exist if you hate it that much. Personally I think it’s nice to have more games that mean something. The regular season has been losing its importance.
But this would take away from the importance of the playoffs. Our first ever championship wouldn’t mean as much. Which one proves which team is the best in the league? How do you prove you’re the best unless you win both trophies?
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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:29 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:34 pm
The in-season tournament is the most awful idea ever. It ruins the sport. You’re gonna have two championships every year? Gross.
That’s a little dramatic haha…just don’t watch it and pretend it doesn’t exist if you hate it that much. Personally I think it’s nice to have more games that mean something. The regular season has been losing its importance.
But this would take away from the importance of the playoffs. Our first ever championship wouldn’t mean as much. Which one proves which team is the best in the league? How do you prove you’re the best unless you win both trophies?
I don’t really think that’s true. Everyone is still going to view the finals as the real championship. I think you could see a scenario where winning both makes for an even more impressive season. Not taking away, but potentially adding to a championship.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the suns had won the mid season tournament this year? Instead of feeling completely like crap after an awesome regular season that flamed out in the playoffs, we could at least feel good about something. And I don’t think the Warriors would feel any less special about their finals win if we had won the mid-season tournament.

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Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:40 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:29 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:34 pm
The in-season tournament is the most awful idea ever. It ruins the sport. You’re gonna have two championships every year? Gross.
That’s a little dramatic haha…just don’t watch it and pretend it doesn’t exist if you hate it that much. Personally I think it’s nice to have more games that mean something. The regular season has been losing its importance.
But this would take away from the importance of the playoffs. Our first ever championship wouldn’t mean as much. Which one proves which team is the best in the league? How do you prove you’re the best unless you win both trophies?
I don’t really think that’s true. Everyone is still going to view the finals as the real championship. I think you could see a scenario where winning both makes for an even more impressive season. Not taking away, but potentially adding to a championship.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the suns had won the mid season tournament this year? Instead of feeling completely like crap after an awesome regular season that flamed out in the playoffs, we could at least feel good about something. And I don’t think the Warriors would feel any less special about their finals win if we had won the mid-season tournament.
I would also be fine with shortening the earlier playoff rounds (although money talks, so this will never happen) -

Opening Round - best of three
Semifinal Round - best of five
Conference Championships & Finals - best of seven

I get a little playoff fatigue and really don't think we need a best of seven for #1 vs #8
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It does make upsets more likely which is part of the reason I think they like to keep best of 7. Maybe the advantage is the higher seed only needs to win 3, lower seed still needs 4? That might get a little funky.

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Or do a first round bye for the top 4 seeds in each conference so the league isn't as worried about losing a top team in the first round. Then do a best of three. Or let everyone in (after you expand to Seattle and Vegas) so that 5v16, 6v15, 7v14, 8v13, 9v12, 10v11 is the "qualifying round" or play in or whatever you want to call it. You can even make it lower seed has to win 2, higher seed only 1 to move on.

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JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:29 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:34 pm
The in-season tournament is the most awful idea ever. It ruins the sport. You’re gonna have two championships every year? Gross.
That’s a little dramatic haha…just don’t watch it and pretend it doesn’t exist if you hate it that much. Personally I think it’s nice to have more games that mean something. The regular season has been losing its importance.
But this would take away from the importance of the playoffs. Our first ever championship wouldn’t mean as much. Which one proves which team is the best in the league? How do you prove you’re the best unless you win both trophies?
I get your feelings, if the NBA is trying to emulate the soccer’s Cup Tournaments, it will be a Round-Robin elimination bracket on single games, but that would not make enough games to offset a big reduction from the 82 games calendar, as the champion would only play 5 games to win it all. If they start it with a group seeding -perhaps using the divisional seeding- like the Soccer World Cup, then every team could play more, but how different it would be from regular season except for being an express tournament?

And about who’s the real champion, I’m pretty sure eventually they will make a game facing the Cup and Regular Champions. More revenue.
I don’t like it either.

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What is the incentive to win the in-season tournament? To try hard?

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Prize money.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:46 pm
What is the incentive to win the in-season tournament? To try hard?
Why can’t winning the tournament be incentive? What’s the incentive to win any game? The finals?

And yes I assume there will be prize money and potentially the games count in the standings.

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Mori Chu wrote:
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What is the incentive to win the in-season tournament? To try hard?
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Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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This in game tournament is stupid.

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specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:47 pm
This in game tournament is stupid.
WORD. A tournament, in the middle of a game? Lunacy! What would they do, host it between the 2nd and 3rd quarters?!

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"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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I wonder if this is a moment for us. If NY sends Utah a bunch of picks for Mitchell, maybe a couple of those picks could reroute to us for Ayton?

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:00 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:47 pm
This in game tournament is stupid.
WORD. A tournament, in the middle of a game? Lunacy! What would they do, host it between the 2nd and 3rd quarters?!
Lol. I deserved that

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Here’s what I’m thinking:

Utah recieves Ayton, Reddish, Quickley and 3 1sts
Knicks receive Mitchell and Azibuike
Suns recieve Fournier and 2 1sts.

We then package Cam J, Crowder, Saric, and Shamet with 6 1sts for KD.

Other options to make the salaries work would be Mikal, Saric, and Craig. Fournier, Crowder, and Saric. There’s a few ways to do it. I imagine they’d still want Mikal, but maybe being able to send them 6 1sts is enough?

Fournier could also be a decent option for us off the bench as a 3rd guard if we don’t include him…which I don’t think he’d be all that appealing to Brooklyn.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:00 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:47 pm
This in game tournament is stupid.
WORD. A tournament, in the middle of a game? Lunacy! What would they do, host it between the 2nd and 3rd quarters?!
It’s not that unusual to see games played on the halftime break…

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