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Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:07 pm
by Split T
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:02 pm
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:28 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:52 pm
You think KD is hard to root for, imagine watching Embiid just crying on the floor for 28 min a game 44 games a season. Fuck that.
If we win a title I don’t care about that
Devin Booker will win a title before Embiid does.
Well in my fever dream they won at the same time…

I don’t think I was very clear that this was a joke, so I apologize for that.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:21 pm
by Kryptonic
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:07 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:02 pm
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:28 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:52 pm
You think KD is hard to root for, imagine watching Embiid just crying on the floor for 28 min a game 44 games a season. Fuck that.
If we win a title I don’t care about that
Devin Booker will win a title before Embiid does.
Well in my fever dream they won at the same time…

I don’t think I was very clear that this was a joke, so I apologize for that.

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LOL... j/k

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:33 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:07 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:02 pm
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:28 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:52 pm
You think KD is hard to root for, imagine watching Embiid just crying on the floor for 28 min a game 44 games a season. Fuck that.
If we win a title I don’t care about that
Devin Booker will win a title before Embiid does.
Well in my fever dream they won at the same time…

I don’t think I was very clear that this was a joke, so I apologize for that.
Oh I got it, I just hate Embiid more that probably any other player in the league.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:48 pm
by Split T
That’s fair…I don’t really like Embiid either…I was just trying to come up with the most plausibile miracle leading to a title…I thought about a Kyrie trade too…maybe a Zion trade, followed by him getting super in shape and staying healthy…

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:43 pm
by TOO
Lauri Markkanen and WCJ are the 2 guys I think we could acquire in some sort of convikited 3-4 team deal.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:32 pm
by Kryptonic
Split T wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:48 pm
That’s fair…I don’t really like Embiid either…I was just trying to come up with the most plausibile miracle leading to a title…I thought about a Kyrie trade too…maybe a Zion trade, followed by him getting super in shape and staying healthy…
Might as well go Ben Simmons too.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:20 pm
by Split T
Hmm, good point, Simmons spends all summer getting in shape and working on his shot…signs for the vet min and becomes a 20/10/10 pg that defends 1-5 at an elite level and shoots 35% from 3 and 75% from the line

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:25 pm
by Cap
Can we get Josh Giddey and Draymond Green too? Maybe Kevin Porter Jr.?

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:33 pm
by Superbone

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:11 am
by The Bobster
Saying Beal is holding them hostage is an idiotic statement. They willingly overpaid for a player for a position they already had filled by an All-Star, and they knew Beal has a no-trade clause and a history of injuries. That isn't Beal pulling a fast one on anybody, that's just bad decision-making by the Suns' front office.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:57 am
by Mori Chu
Zero percent chance Beal is back? Uh, are they saying they are going to attach picks and assets to get rid of him? What picks, exactly? What assets? I don't really want Beal here, but I certainly don't think we can afford to use any of our very few minimal assets to be rid of him. And we can't even get rid of him if we want to, unless he approves the trade, which he has already said he doesn't want to do. So, uh, yeah, there is a pretty big chance Bradley Beal is back in a Suns uniform next season.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:13 am
by The Bobster
The Athletic has a "Trade Booker" article this morning. It's pretty scathing in its assessment of the impatience of the Suns' front office the last couple of years.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:27 am
by ShelC
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:57 am
Zero percent chance Beal is back? Uh, are they saying they are going to attach picks and assets to get rid of him? What picks, exactly? What assets? I don't really want Beal here, but I certainly don't think we can afford to use any of our very few minimal assets to be rid of him. And we can't even get rid of him if we want to, unless he approves the trade, which he has already said he doesn't want to do. So, uh, yeah, there is a pretty big chance Bradley Beal is back in a Suns uniform next season.
I'm absolutely against attaching Dunn or Oso to move Beal. That's compounding a terrible decision with another terrible decision and getting rid of the two kinds of players we need on this roster and can't afford to lose due to our lack of future picks. You have to move KD first and get back as many picks as you can and try and use those to move off Beal. If all else fails, you bite the bullet and work on a buyout/stretch scenario. He can't be back on the roster and if Ishbia needs to eat that $100mil, so be it. It'll be a lesson learned.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:50 am
by Split T
I’d try and trade him to whoever will take him for nothing(I have my doubts we can find a partner)…if Beal says no, I’d let him know he’s not playing and he can go sit at home for 2 years. He’ll say yes. I really don’t think he’s going to say no…he looks miserable here.

I would not attach assets to him unless we are getting real basketball players back. No one will be knocking down our door to trade for him, especially not to start the summer, but I could see later in the summer if a team struck out on who they really wanted. I think a midseason trade is even more likely. At that point it’s basically just 1 more year.

I don’t like the buyout and stretch option at all unless he forks over a ton of money. We owe him 110 million over 2 years. If he’d take 75-80 I might consider it.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:54 am
by O_Gardino
Feels like the Suns have had 3 good offseasons in the last 15 years.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:57 am
by Split T
The Bobster wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:13 am
The Athletic has a "Trade Booker" article this morning. It's pretty scathing in its assessment of the impatience of the Suns' front office the last couple of years.
I read the booker part…my biggest gripe with it is he says there’s no way to get 2026 back. I think there is and it would absolutely be my first move before making a Booker trade. I think it’s really dumb to blow it up this summer knowing we don’t have our pick. Booker won’t lose his value in 1 year. Trade KD for the best haul you can get and see what happens in 2026. If there’s no promise, trade Booker then. If you got 27/29 from Houston in a KD trade, then you can send Booker anywhere. If you traded KD elsewhere, then you probably gotta trade Booker to Houston.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:50 am
by JJ Slim
Even if you could get Beal to waive his NTC is there anybody that would actually want him?

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:55 am
by Kryptonic
JJ Slim wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:50 am
Even if you could get Beal to waive his NTC is there anybody that would actually want him?
China or Europe I'm sure :P

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:03 am
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:50 am
I’d try and trade him to whoever will take him for nothing(I have my doubts we can find a partner)…
Respectfully: nobody, NOBODY, is going to take him for nothing. It is important for the "trade Beal" folks to understand that there is no trade. Nobody wants him and his contract. If anybody did, he would already be gone.

Re: Off-season Plans

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:31 am
by The Bobster
It might be a different story if he were an expiring contract, but nobody's going to want him now unless they can dump their own bad contracts on the Suns.