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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:08 am
by Split T


I would do this…I’d prefer Avdija over Kispert but I get that’s not likely

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:20 am
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:48 am
We’re playing a dangerous game…if Ayton isn’t awesome his trade value will plummet(if it hasn’t already). I don’t know what the offers for him are right now, but if the rumored Randle and 2 1sts offer was real, he still has value.

I don’t want Randle on this current team, but if other teams have made similar offers value wise, we should seriously consider them.

I’m still holding out hope Indiana or Orlando want him. Maybe Atlanta or NY.
That was a fake story made up by @KhizHoop on Twitter.

But who cares about the potential for his trade value to plummet (highly unlikely that it will go anything but up from here) anyway, if they already can’t get enough to make the team better? They will just keep him as their starting center. That’s how he provides the most value currently and, under your scenario, that would simply remain true. And having him as their starting center is what the head coach wants anyway.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:27 am
by Vladimir_Taltos
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:20 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:48 am
We’re playing a dangerous game…if Ayton isn’t awesome his trade value will plummet(if it hasn’t already). I don’t know what the offers for him are right now, but if the rumored Randle and 2 1sts offer was real, he still has value.

I don’t want Randle on this current team, but if other teams have made similar offers value wise, we should seriously consider them.

I’m still holding out hope Indiana or Orlando want him. Maybe Atlanta or NY.
That was a fake story made up by @KhizHoop on Twitter.

But who cares about the potential for his trade value to plummet (highly unlikely that it will go anything but up from here) anyway, if they already can’t get enough to make the team better? They will just keep him as their starting center. That’s how he provides the most value currently and, under your scenario, that would simply remain true. And having him as their starting center is what the head coach wants anyway.
In nominay DeAndre, In nominay Ayton...all hail spaghetti! Play ball!
Jeremy, High Priest of The DeAndre Church of the Spaghetti Center (TDACSC)

https://youtu.be/rlUD0NmJDaQ

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:37 am
by ShelC
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:06 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 am
I don't think there's a lot of interest and those rumored deals were mostly BS. Maybe we can pull Capela but I don't know why the Hawks do it. A deal with Portland for Nurk might be possible if they think it'll move the needle with Dame but we'd be worse defensively.

I don't think the Randle deal was out there and he'd be a bad fit here.
Why don’t you think the Randle deal was out there? It was a report from a New York guy
Can't find the article, the Knicks still would've had Mitch Robinson on the team and Lewis isn't so tuned in that he'd break a rumor like that over Bondy, Begley or Katz. I think it was a made up report.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:09 am
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:20 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:48 am
We’re playing a dangerous game…if Ayton isn’t awesome his trade value will plummet(if it hasn’t already). I don’t know what the offers for him are right now, but if the rumored Randle and 2 1sts offer was real, he still has value.

I don’t want Randle on this current team, but if other teams have made similar offers value wise, we should seriously consider them.

I’m still holding out hope Indiana or Orlando want him. Maybe Atlanta or NY.
That was a fake story made up by @KhizHoop on Twitter.

But who cares about the potential for his trade value to plummet (highly unlikely that it will go anything but up from here) anyway, if they already can’t get enough to make the team better? They will just keep him as their starting center. That’s how he provides the most value currently and, under your scenario, that would simply remain true. And having him as their starting center is what the head coach wants anyway.
I don’t understand why people feel the need to make stuff up like that…at least make it obvious if you’re trying to be funny.

Still the point is neither of us know what his value is right now. If the suns are holding out for a huge return and that’s why they aren’t moving him, he definitely could lose value. Impossible to say without knowing where his value currently stands.

And the point is we are utilizing him as a 4th option and just need him to be a defensive anchor and make easy baskets. We could get that out of a lesser player like Clint Capela and get another player to add depth(which we sorely need).

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:10 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:37 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:06 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 am
I don't think there's a lot of interest and those rumored deals were mostly BS. Maybe we can pull Capela but I don't know why the Hawks do it. A deal with Portland for Nurk might be possible if they think it'll move the needle with Dame but we'd be worse defensively.

I don't think the Randle deal was out there and he'd be a bad fit here.
Why don’t you think the Randle deal was out there? It was a report from a New York guy
Can't find the article, the Knicks still would've had Mitch Robinson on the team and Lewis isn't so tuned in that he'd break a rumor like that over Bondy, Begley or Katz. I think it was a made up report.
Looks like it was made up by a suns fan…and then some other person wrote an article based on the fake tweet

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:24 am
by ShelC
The Wizards deal for their role players like Kispert, Gafford and Morris isn't super exciting but they'd provide the depth we say we're looking for. That'd be assuming the Wizards want to take on Ayton's contract. The Wizards could sell Poole and Ayton as a core duo rather than just letting Poole chuck 30 times a night and winning 18 games next year. Just not sure Kispert/Gafford and Morris are glamourous enough when sending out DA.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:29 am
by Split T
What if you got Tyus and/or Avdija instead of Morris and/or Kispert?

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:58 am
by ShelC
Sure. Can Tyus be packaged with other players after already being traded?

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:52 am
by Split T
No he can’t but if the trade hasn’t been finalized, it could get combined…otherwise you’d have to wait 60 days I think

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:53 am
by JeremyG

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:58 am
by Split T
Then Tyus couldn’t be involved

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:16 am
by Shabazz


We could help with their L-Tax issue.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:16 am


We could help with their L-Tax issue.
Gross.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:47 am
by Split T
It’s a Flex vs Gambo battle about what’s happening with Ayton and unfortunately(or fortunately depending on who you are) Gambo has been way more accurate this offseason.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:21 pm
by TOO
Hunter and Capela would be a good return for Ayton.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:22 pm
by specialsauce
I’ll take Bogdanovic please

Cap/Bogi or Hunter/Bogi

Still think we need a spark off the bench

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:31 pm
by Split T
I’d prefer Hunter to Bogdon…we’d need the better defender

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:33 pm
by JeremyG

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:50 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:33 pm
Cool now go find one where Suns fans shit all over Ayton. Gimme a break.