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Himmy Butler disagreesspecialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pmOne could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:32 pmYes, Grazin' Allen is better than Deandre Ayton. And that's ok, there's lots of guys who only 18m per that are better than max guys. It happens.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pmYou mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 amNow do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 amBlazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:36 pm
I mean, he's always whining and moping almost every single time you see him on the court. I figured he'd be a Grade A bitch and do something like this.
The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.
We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
Hmm…if a difference of opinion aggravates you so much, I guess so.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:17 pmLET. THIS. GO.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pmYou mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:53 amNow do Ayton. I'll wait. Also, let this battle die lol. They can both be ass and Allen is the best of the 3.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 amBlazers fans warned us about his attitude problems, but everyone swore it would be fine and he would always give maximum effort and be fine with his role.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:36 pm
I mean, he's always whining and moping almost every single time you see him on the court. I figured he'd be a Grade A bitch and do something like this.
The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.
We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
The whole reason Ayton was traded is because he sucked and could not be counted on to be worth a damn on any given day. We were not "set" at center. Ayton is a nickel-a-dozen center that isn't even wanted by the team that traded for him. And they suck worse than the Suns. Keep in mind, I was an Ayton apologist until close to the end when I realized he was trash and it wasn't going to change.
This is getting so damn old. Ayton was traded a year and a half ago. We don't want him. Now we don't want Nurk either and all we get from you is Ayton this and Nurk that. They both suck, but Nurk makes $12 million less per year and wasn't our one and only #1 pick. Stop it. You're right Allen wasn't the best part of the trade, but he was a very close second. The best part was getting rid of Ayton.
I guess I need to put you back on ignore.
He would be an upgrade from our current center rotation for sure. Hopefully we can get it done.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:18 pmTOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:32 pmYes, Grazin' Allen is better than Deandre Ayton. And that's ok, there's lots of guys who only 18m per that are better than max guys. It happens.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pmYou mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.
The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.
We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
Nick Richards…might be better than Ayton. At least for the price, it’s no question.
You have to read every saucy post as just that…. Saucy. It all in jest.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:21 pmSeriously?? You're encouraging this nonsense?specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pmDeandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
It’s not just about a difference of opinion. You took a position generally considered absurd, there was a time when it was all you ever talked about, and even though it’s not really a problem any more it can still feel like it is because it’s hard to let go of old thoughts.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:29 pmHmm…if a difference of opinion aggravates you so much, I guess so.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:17 pmLET. THIS. GO.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:59 pmYou mean the guy who’s shooting 43.7% from the field this season? He’s a dime-a-dozen wing, nothing special.
The point is that Nurkic was supposed to be content with a small role, give maximum effort, with no complaining/moping. That was the whole reason given for trading Ayton.
We were set at center. But we destroyed ourselves, just like every other trade Ishbia has engineered.
The whole reason Ayton was traded is because he sucked and could not be counted on to be worth a damn on any given day. We were not "set" at center. Ayton is a nickel-a-dozen center that isn't even wanted by the team that traded for him. And they suck worse than the Suns. Keep in mind, I was an Ayton apologist until close to the end when I realized he was trash and it wasn't going to change.
This is getting so damn old. Ayton was traded a year and a half ago. We don't want him. Now we don't want Nurk either and all we get from you is Ayton this and Nurk that. They both suck, but Nurk makes $12 million less per year and wasn't our one and only #1 pick. Stop it. You're right Allen wasn't the best part of the trade, but he was a very close second. The best part was getting rid of Ayton.
I guess I need to put you back on ignore.
Hahaha yeah, one could argue.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pmOne could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
But like why would they, ya know?Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pmHahaha yeah, one could argue.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pmOne could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Same hahaspecialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:07 pmYou know I love chaos, are you surprised?SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:21 pmSeriously?? You're encouraging this nonsense?specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pmDeandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
One.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pmHahaha yeah, one could argue.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pmOne could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
Amare is the correct answer and it’s not remotely closespecialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pmDeandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
100%.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:44 pmAmare is the correct answer and it’s not remotely closespecialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:19 pmDeandre Ayton is the best center in Suns franchise history. Prove me wrong.
Apparently it's two now.Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:41 pmOne.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:38 pmHahaha yeah, one could argue.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:09 pmOne could argue that the franchise would be in a better position today if they traded Devin Booker and held on to Deandre Ayton.
This is a great article. Pretty much 100% spot on about the Suns' problems and the argument FOR trading KD now while we still can.Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:16 pmWhy the Phoenix Suns Should Trade Kevin Durant
https://www.theringer.com/2025/01/13/nb ... ler-rumors