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JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:08 pm

Funny how quiet it got once I proved Ayton was our best clutch player this season.

I think it was more eye-opening how bad Book was. The Ayton numbers, I suspect, lack context. That's why I was looking at the video. The first qualifying one I found was Paul drawing the defense and then feeding an open Ayton for a layup. If the sample is full of those type of plays, I think it changes the narrative you are trying to present. I don't think the majority of the plays are going to be Ayton getting the ball and creating shots for himself, like post-ups and taking his man off the dribble (although one video did show him doing exactly that).

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:02 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:08 pm

Funny how quiet it got once I proved Ayton was our best clutch player this season.

I think it was more eye-opening how bad Book was. The Ayton numbers, I suspect, lack context. That's why I was looking at the video. The first qualifying one I found was Paul drawing the defense and then feeding an open Ayton for a layup. If the sample is full of those type of plays, I think it changes the narrative you are trying to present. I don't think the majority of the plays are going to be Ayton getting the ball and creating shots for himself, like post-ups and taking his man off the dribble (although one video did show him doing exactly that).

Of course the majority of his field goals wouldn’t be him creating shots for himself, but it’s nice to have a big who can put the ball in the hoop and get you those easy baskets in crunch time.

Also, he had the most made free throws on the team (better % than Booker on 3 fewer attempts, and better % and more attempts than Paul). Getting to line—and making them—is very valuable in clutch time.

EDIT: The context always gets lost in these discussions, also. I didn't come on here trying to prove that Ayton was our best clutch player. I was countering someone who claimed, "He just doesnt have an impact on the game and really makes bad mental errors at the worst times and comes up small when you need him the most."

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 pm

There are several great Ayton articles lately. We should use this as a "All Things Ayton" thread. Maybe we can rename it! I'll post a few good articles I saw today.

Dammit!

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:48 am

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 pm

There are several great Ayton articles lately. We should use this as a "All Things Ayton" thread. Maybe we can rename it! I'll post a few good articles I saw today.

Dammit!

So it was YOU!!!!

We could always rename the thread "Cult of Ayton".

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:47 am

I’m all for this turning into the Ayton parody thread. The universe has now collapsed in on itself and formed a new dimension.
Phoenix Aytons will be great next year. Now that we finally added enough Aytons for a solid playoff rotation.

The inside of Jeremy's mind is like that scene from "Being John Malkovich."

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:50 am

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:48 am

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 pm

There are several great Ayton articles lately. We should use this as a "All Things Ayton" thread. Maybe we can rename it! I'll post a few good articles I saw today.

Dammit!

So it was YOU!!!!

We could always rename the thread "Cult of Ayton".

That's hilarious AIG--I knew someone had suggested I rename the thread but I didn't even see that post when I looked at the first page earlier.

We could always rename the thread "Cult of Ayton".

Well, DA is just getting started "cultivayton" a hall of fame career.

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

There's your 4th guy....

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:28 pm

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:50 am

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:48 am

AmareIsGod wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:44 pm

There are several great Ayton articles lately. We should use this as a "All Things Ayton" thread. Maybe we can rename it! I'll post a few good articles I saw today.

Dammit!

So it was YOU!!!!

We could always rename the thread "Cult of Ayton".

That's hilarious AIG--I knew someone had suggested I rename the thread but I didn't even see that post when I looked at the first page earlier.

We could always rename the thread "Cult of Ayton".

Well, DA is just getting started "cultivayton" a hall of fame career.

I like the twist!

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

Kyrie-Beal-Booker-Durant

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

Kyrie-Beal-Booker-Durant

I've long thought Kyrie was the target, never expected Beal to be one of the 4.

If somehow Holmes and Kyrie the plan vs Ayton and I guess Craig at this point? Sign me up for the Former.

Hahaha nah guys Jones is not the type to count his chickens before they're hatched. He prefaced it with: "And adding Brad, truly believe..."

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:40 am

I’ve been calling for the death of this thread for a minute now. It’s 20% of the reason why I want Ayton traded. If he’s gone, this thread will die, it might take a few months to a year but it’ll eventually die. Like Pennywise at the end of IT, either the long ass book or long ass movies, it’ll be a journey but the shit will end.

SPOILER ALERT!

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

Yeah, I was as surprised as anybody that Jones feels Payne is that good. It was a real eye opener.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:38 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

Yeah, I was as surprised as anybody that Jones feels Payne is that good. It was a real eye opener.

Got a good chuckle out of that… lol

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:39 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

There's your 4th guy....

I do not want Harden! I would rather Ayton. Let’s not turn into the Nets over here.

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:46 pm

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:39 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm

"I truly believe every night we're gonna walk out there with 4 of the 5 best players on the floor, at those positions."--James Jones at the Beal presser today.

There's your 4th guy....

I do not want Harden! I would rather Ayton. Let’s not turn into the Nets over here.

I think Flex was referring to Kyrie.

For the love of heaven, NO to Kyrie...hell no...

I’d 1000% prefer to keep ayton and all of his flaws over the head case that is kyrie. Hard pass.

Hahaha you guys are getting it all wrong. It’s gonna be Ayton AND Kyrie. I can’t wait for that fanbase meltdown.