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Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:32 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:14 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
If it was a dominant 4 game sweep and Giannis doesn't play or is very limited, it will be a discredited championship by many. I can already hear the talking heads now.
It’s going to be by anyone who’s team got hit by injuries. Paul George already cried about it.
But Paul’s stinger could have been our doom, same with his Covid protocol, both series could have started down 2-0 because of it, same with Booker nose trough games 3-5.
We managed to go 4-3 on those games, because people step up, like the Bucks did on the ECF. It’s a Stars league, but even then, it’s the best surviving TEAM, the one who gets the Throphy. Get a more balance, less top heavy and/or not injury prone roster if you want to compete without risking losing it all on one man down.
We did, and here we are. We owe no one an apology or an asterisk, specially to both punk LA teams
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:33 pm
by iLLmatic
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:14 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
If it was a dominant 4 game sweep and Giannis doesn't play or is very limited, it will be a discredited championship by many. I can already hear the talking heads now.
I was just thinking the same thing.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:37 pm
by JeremyG
Since Bridges struggles guarding Middleton, maybe we could put Crowder on Middleton, Ayton on Giannis, and Bridges on Lopez.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:57 pm
by Superbone
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:14 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
If it was a dominant 4 game sweep and Giannis doesn't play or is very limited, it will be a discredited championship by many. I can already hear the talking heads now.
Who cares! We can only play who they put in front of us. That's it. Worry about what we can control. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING can diminish my joy if we win our first NBA Championship.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:59 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:32 pm
Wormwood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:21 pm
I'm flying in from the East Coast to attend Game 2.
Most of the talking-head "experts" are picking the Bucks, but the modeling and simulation is favoring the Suns.
And the bettors are siding with the models.
I like to side with models myself!
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:03 pm
by Superbone
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:32 pm
...it’s the best surviving TEAM, the one who gets the
Throphy.
I think it's the best passing team that gets the Throphy.

Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:04 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:33 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:14 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
If it was a dominant 4 game sweep and Giannis doesn't play or is very limited, it will be a discredited championship by many. I can already hear the talking heads now.
I was just thinking the same thing.
Well, stop it! Enough with the stinkin' thinkin'!
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:05 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Speaking of counting on things, you KNOW our crowd will be doing the ol' Atlanta Quick Count while Giannis is shooting FTs.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:29 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:05 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Speaking of counting on things, you KNOW our crowd will be doing the ol' Atlanta Quick Count while Giannis is shooting FTs.
Wasn’t Atlanta doing the Brooklyn Quick Count?
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:34 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:05 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Speaking of counting on things, you KNOW our crowd will be doing the ol' Atlanta Quick Count while Giannis is shooting FTs.
Wasn’t Atlanta doing the Brooklyn Quick Count?
Probably. Don't recall. You tell me.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:39 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:34 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:05 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Speaking of counting on things, you KNOW our crowd will be doing the ol' Atlanta Quick Count while Giannis is shooting FTs.
Wasn’t Atlanta doing the Brooklyn Quick Count?
Probably. Don't recall. You tell me.
Hmm. Seems the Brooklyn count was reasonably accurate. At least that once.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:48 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:39 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:34 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:05 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Giannis shot 84% from the free throw line in those games, though. So that gave them some extra points. I wouldn't count on that happening again.
Speaking of counting on things, you KNOW our crowd will be doing the ol' Atlanta Quick Count while Giannis is shooting FTs.
Wasn’t Atlanta doing the Brooklyn Quick Count?
Probably. Don't recall. You tell me.
Hmm. Seems the Brooklyn count was reasonably accurate. At least that once.
Should we add the "one thousand" in there for accuracy?

Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:49 pm
by Superbone
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:21 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:37 pm
Since Bridges struggles guarding Middleton, maybe we could put Crowder on Middleton, Ayton on Giannis, and Bridges on Lopez.
I would keep Ayton on Lopez, to avoid foul problems and keep him as defensive anchor in general, instead of first line of defense against Giannis. Let him face Crowder and mix it up with some Craig, specially while he still on a gimpy leg. For Middleton you can throw Bridges, CamJ, Nader and also some Craig as well. We can put size, length, speed or fundamentals on Middleton to keep him from getting confortable.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:01 pm
by Superbone
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:31 pm
by AmareIsGod
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:57 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:14 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:29 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:19 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:17 pm
So, they have Tucker who used to be a Sun and we have Craig who used to be a Buck. This will be interesting to see how it develops. The Suns let Tucker go when we were bad and did him a favor. I think Craig has a much bigger revenge factor due to the Bucks letting him go for cash considerations in order to pick up Tucker.
Last time we played a former team of Craig, it went very well.
Let's hope for a repeat! Can you imagine a dominant 4 game Finals sweep for our Suns?! I can. (But not counting on it. I could also see a grueling 7 game series depending on Giannis' health. I mean we won 2 games by 1 point each this season against them. Seems pretty evenly matched.)
If it was a dominant 4 game sweep and Giannis doesn't play or is very limited, it will be a discredited championship by many. I can already hear the talking heads now.
Who cares! We can only play who they put in front of us. That's it. Worry about what we can control. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING can diminish my joy if we win our first NBA Championship.
I'm definitely not discrediting a thing. Just getting ahead of the eventual "yeah but.." narrative they'll want to slap on our first championship. I think it's going to be a challenging series and can't wait to call our Phoenix Suns champions after all of these years!
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:40 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I don't know how the Bucks will be able to match the Suns depth. Even the Suns weakest point, Dario as the bench Center, isn't really much of a disadvantage. I guess my biggest worry is the Bucks shooters suddenly getting really hot for a few games.
I don't want to be overconfident, but the Suns should win this series even if Giannis plays every game.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:11 pm
by pickle
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:21 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:37 pm
Since Bridges struggles guarding Middleton, maybe we could put Crowder on Middleton, Ayton on Giannis, and Bridges on Lopez.
I would keep Ayton on Lopez, to avoid foul problems and keep him as defensive anchor in general, instead of first line of defense against Giannis. Let him face Crowder and mix it up with some Craig, specially while he still on a gimpy leg. For Middleton you can throw Bridges, CamJ, Nader and also some Craig as well. We can put size, length, speed or fundamentals on Middleton to keep him from getting confortable.
The issue with that is, when Giannis is in the game, they park Lopez several feet outside the three point line to give Giannis space to operate.
Re: SUNS NEWS: 2021 FINALS EDITION SUNS vs BUCKS
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:13 pm
by pickle
Who is this woman? I like her.