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I really just don’t see it…you think there’s a world where Ayton is better than what Booker is right now? What Nash was for us? What Barkley did?

I feel like his ceiling was Marion if he bought in and played his role for 9-10 years.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:46 am

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:29 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:00 pm

Nodack wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:22 pm

Ayton is going to a new team and will want to prove to the world his worth. Will he be the same guy or will he make a leap and get serious. This could be the best thing for Ayton.

Sure it could be the best thing for Ayton. But I’m not an Ayton fan, I’m a Suns fan. I want what’s best for the Suns, not Ayton.

Had me fooled.

Lol, you’re misreading that. In the sense that I was a Jordan fan, yes.

Ayton could have been the best thing that ever happened to the Suns, if they hadn’t screwed it up.

Everyone else’s fault…. Great narrative to fall back on. He’ll never amount to squat until he owns it and becomes a man n his own instead of blaming everyone else.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:49 am

I really just don’t see it…you think there’s a world where Ayton is better than what Booker is right now? What Nash was for us? What Barkley did?

I feel like his ceiling was Marion if he bought in and played his role for 9-10 years.

Right… he can’t even make an all star game. Nobody’s is picking big softy. Good riddance to him.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:49 am

I really just don’t see it…you think there’s a world where Ayton is better than what Booker is right now? What Nash was for us? What Barkley did?

I feel like his ceiling was Marion if he bought in and played his role for 9-10 years.

I didn’t say best Suns player ever, but with the right development from the start who knows.

The context was that “I want what’s best for the Suns.” I meant he could have been the piece to put us over the top.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:27 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:49 am

I really just don’t see it…you think there’s a world where Ayton is better than what Booker is right now? What Nash was for us? What Barkley did?

I feel like his ceiling was Marion if he bought in and played his role for 9-10 years.

I didn’t say best Suns player ever, but with the right development from the start who knows.

The context was that “I want what’s best for the Suns.” I meant he could have been the piece to put us over the top.

I just think if I’ve got a bunch of water cups trying to fill a big bucket of water and 95% of the bucket is filled up by 3 cups of water, the cup that finally fills it over the top isn’t what I’d call the best thing that happened. That Booker cup that filled half the bottle first is the better thing.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:00 pm

Sure it could be the best thing for Ayton. But I’m not an Ayton fan, I’m a Suns fan. I want what’s best for the Suns, not Ayton.

I believe you. But if you spend all of next season trashing Nurkic every time he sneezes and pointing to Ayton's stats and such, even if the Suns are having a strong season, I'm going to point you to this post and ask for some clarifications.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:05 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:27 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:49 am

I really just don’t see it…you think there’s a world where Ayton is better than what Booker is right now? What Nash was for us? What Barkley did?

I feel like his ceiling was Marion if he bought in and played his role for 9-10 years.

I didn’t say best Suns player ever, but with the right development from the start who knows.

The context was that “I want what’s best for the Suns.” I meant he could have been the piece to put us over the top.

I just think if I’ve got a bunch of water cups trying to fill a big bucket of water and 95% of the bucket is filled up by 3 cups of water, the cup that finally fills it over the top isn’t what I’d call the best thing that happened. That Booker cup that filled half the bottle first is the better thing.

Doesn't matter which way you explain it... but A+ for effort

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:06 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:00 pm

Sure it could be the best thing for Ayton. But I’m not an Ayton fan, I’m a Suns fan. I want what’s best for the Suns, not Ayton.

I believe you. But if you spend all of next season trashing Nurkic every time he sneezes and pointing to Ayton's stats and such, even if the Suns are having a strong season, I'm going to point you to this post and ask for some clarifications.

Lol, don’t worry, I don’t have the energy to hate on one player that much. I won’t be trashing Nurkic even one tenth of the trashing that y’all did to Ayton.

Just let me get through the five stages dude.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:35 am

Just let me get through the five stages dude.

Ha ha. You deserve at least that, Jeremy.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:40 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:35 am

Just let me get through the five stages dude.

Ha ha. You deserve at least that, Jeremy.

They really had to do it when I was sick, too?

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:42 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:40 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:35 am

Just let me get through the five stages dude.

Ha ha. You deserve at least that, Jeremy.

They really had to do it when I was sick, too?

Yeah, low blow on the part of the Suns organization. So, it wasn't Covid?

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:56 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:42 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:40 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:35 am

Just let me get through the five stages dude.

Ha ha. You deserve at least that, Jeremy.

They really had to do it when I was sick, too?

Yeah, low blow on the part of the Suns organization. So, it wasn't Covid?

I’m thinking it’s not at this point, still tested negative and I’m starting to feel a little bit better (physically at least… ).

Wow, we ended up at exactly 50/50!

I’m here for the Jeremy post trade grief thread. It’s ok not to be ok man. It took me a minute to recover from the Marjele for Hot Rod Williams trade. And the Marion Shaq Trade.

That Marion Shaq deal still makes me sad. Matrix should've retired as a Suns lifer.

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Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:36 pm

That Marion Shaq deal still makes me sad. Matrix should've retired as a Suns lifer.

Yea…. Shaq was such a waste at that point in his career. Would have been better to ride out the matrix. At least he could defend 1-5.

I went to a Shaq game when he was here…. He damn near killed a fan diving into the stands for a ball.

That Marion/Shaq trade was such a huge mistake in retrospect. I still have nightmares of the Spurs destroying Shaq on the pick-and-roll. I’m happy Marion found success outside of Phoenix by winning a title, but it would have truly been something special to witness him accomplish it here.

You just triggered my Hack-A-Shaq PTSD.

You and me both lol. I get flashbacks of those days whenever the Shaq/Marion trade becomes a topic of discussion. Just not a time in our team’s history that I like to revisit.

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:22 pm

I’m here for the Jeremy post trade grief thread. It’s ok not to be ok man. It took me a minute to recover from the Marjele for Hot Rod Williams trade. And the Marion Shaq Trade.

This one could end up very similar to both of those trades: getting an older, injury-prone center who is in decline—while never knowing what could have been if we stuck with the player we drafted.

I’ll admit I was halfway in favor of the Shaq trade—just because we had never had a great center and I was hoping with our medical staff he could still be somewhat dominant. But I loved Marion, can’t wait for his well-deserved ROH induction!