It's obviously not about skin color. I just want a guy who can relate to the players and tell it like it is and not be afraid to hurt their feelings and keep them accountable. I guess a better question is how do these last 25 championship coaches match that criteria. Or, is this even the right criteria. What are their best qualities?The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:49 am22 of the last 25 championship coaches have been white guys. I don't know what difference skin color is going to make.
Mike Budenholzer Fired
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Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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I like Willie Green, but I am really really DONE with giving away picks left and right for short-term fixes. Find a good coach and hire him; no picks just to get yet another 1-year coach who we'll probably just fire after next season anyway.
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A note about New Orleans and Willie Green. Sounds like they want to trade Zion but keep Green.
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Someone should start a poll of possible coaching replacements
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I wonder if Chris Paul retires and becomes Suns head coach lol
I kid, I kid.
Maybe Steve Nash?
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I kid, I kid.
Maybe Steve Nash?
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He already got an extension I believeTOO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:49 amI think he stays, Suns just being used as leverage for a new deal like usual.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:45 amWillie Green
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I don't think it's so funny. I'd take him as coach. I like the idea. I'd love to see him work the refs.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:23 amI wonder if Chris Paul retires and becomes Suns head coach lol
I kid, I kid.
Maybe Steve Nash?![]()
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I saw an article suggesting several options. One was Sam Cassel? Just say NO!
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He was definitely a coach on the floor so why not on the sidelines?Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:30 amI don't think it's so funny. I'd take him as coach. I like the idea. I'd love to see him work the refs.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:23 amI wonder if Chris Paul retires and becomes Suns head coach lol
I kid, I kid.
Maybe Steve Nash?![]()
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I still need Willie
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Plus, he's not going to back down from telling the players what he thinks and hold them accountable.JJ Slim wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:31 amHe was definitely a coach on the floor so why not on the sidelines?Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:30 amI don't think it's so funny. I'd take him as coach. I like the idea. I'd love to see him work the refs.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:23 amI wonder if Chris Paul retires and becomes Suns head coach lol
I kid, I kid.
Maybe Steve Nash?![]()
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I still need Willie
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It seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
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I'm not convinced it has to be a former player. Why are we thinking that? I might have to review the last 25 championship coaches Bobster referenced. I know Pop, Vogel, and Bud are on that list right off the top of my head. None of which were good players at the NBA level.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:37 amIt seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
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Johnnie Bryant is another guy to keep an eye on. I think i remember Gambo saying his name awhile back too. Could be wrong.
He was Donovan Mitchell favorite assistant in Utah, when to to Knicks with Thibs and now currently less assistant with the Cavs now.
Random Cavs appreciation thread
He was Donovan Mitchell favorite assistant in Utah, when to to Knicks with Thibs and now currently less assistant with the Cavs now.
Random Cavs appreciation thread
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The Suns released the following statement:
Competing at the highest level remains our goal, and we failed to meet expectations this season. Our fans deserve better. Change is needed.
Yes we do!
Competing at the highest level remains our goal, and we failed to meet expectations this season. Our fans deserve better. Change is needed.
Yes we do!
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Gambo been hinting at that on radio for a minute now, didn’t say it was requirement tho. Basically keep an eye out on young up and coming coaches, and added that being a recent former player could be a big positive.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:44 amI'm not convinced it has to be a former player. Why are we thinking that? I might have to review the last 25 championship coaches Bobster referenced. I know Pop, Vogel, and Bud are on that list right off the top of my head. None of which were good players at the NBA level.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:37 amIt seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
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Gotcha, thanks.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:55 amGambo been hinting at that on radio for a minute now, didn’t say it was requirement tho. Basically keep an eye out on young up and coming coaches, and added that being a recent former player could be a big positive.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:44 amI'm not convinced it has to be a former player. Why are we thinking that? I might have to review the last 25 championship coaches Bobster referenced. I know Pop, Vogel, and Bud are on that list right off the top of my head. None of which were good players at the NBA level.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:37 amIt seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
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Since the NBA/ABA merger -Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:44 amI'm not convinced it has to be a former player. Why are we thinking that? I might have to review the last 25 championship coaches Bobster referenced. I know Pop, Vogel, and Bud are on that list right off the top of my head. None of which were good players at the NBA level.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:37 amIt seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
Joe Mazzulla
Mike Malone
Steve Kerr
Mike Budenholzer
Frank Vogel
Nick Nurse
Tyronn Lue
Gregg Popovich
Erik Spoelstra
Rick Carlisle
Phil Jackson
Doc Rivers
Pat Riley
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chuck Daly
K.C. Jones
Billy Cunningham
Bill Fitch
Paul Westhead
Lenny Wilkens
Dick Motta
Jack Ramsay
Star players - Cunningham, Wilkens, Tomjanovich
Starter-quality players - Rivers, Lue
Role players - Kerr, Riley, Jackson, Jones, Carlisle
Did not play in NBA - Ramsay, Motta, Fitch, Westhead, Daly, Spoelstra, Popovich, Nurse, Vogel, Budenholzer, Malone, Mazzulla
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Cool stat but that wasn't the point I was making. I'll say big black stiff next time to appease you.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:49 am37 of the last 40 championship coaches have been white guys. I don't know what difference skin color is going to make.
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Thanks Bobster! I was working on my own little list in parallel but this is much better. Mind if I move it to the coaching search thread?The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:38 pmSince the NBA/ABA merger -Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:44 amI'm not convinced it has to be a former player. Why are we thinking that? I might have to review the last 25 championship coaches Bobster referenced. I know Pop, Vogel, and Bud are on that list right off the top of my head. None of which were good players at the NBA level.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:37 amIt seems very likely that the next coach is going to be a former player. The current ones that come to mind are: Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley and Chris Quinn. Any others? Trying to think of assistants that also previously been mentioned as head coach candidates in the past.
Joe Mazzulla
Mike Malone
Steve Kerr
Mike Budenholzer
Frank Vogel
Nick Nurse
Tyronn Lue
Gregg Popovich
Erik Spoelstra
Rick Carlisle
Phil Jackson
Doc Rivers
Pat Riley
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chuck Daly
K.C. Jones
Billy Cunningham
Bill Fitch
Paul Westhead
Lenny Wilkens
Dick Motta
Jack Ramsay
Star players - Cunningham, Wilkens, Tomjanovich
Starter-quality players - Rivers, Lue
Role players - Kerr, Riley, Jackson, Jones, Carlisle
Did not play in NBA - Ramsay, Motta, Fitch, Westhead, Daly, Spoelstra, Popovich, Nurse, Vogel, Budenholzer, Malone, Mazzulla
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