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Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:48 pm
by O_Gardino
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:05 pm
Van Gundy's talk of this being an unprecedented instance of a player carrying a mediocre supporting cast to the Finals needs to recall Moses Malone and the 1981 Houston Rockets (40-42 in the regular season).
I thought it was extremely disrespectful to to the rest of the Cavs.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:32 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 1:54 pm
IDK about LeBron vs Jordan, but I do think the Robbert H***y thing is interesting. Back then, he was an anomaly. Today, his playing style is taken for granted.
Robbert Horrry, the original Unicorn!!!
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:33 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:48 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:05 pm
Van Gundy's talk of this being an unprecedented instance of a player carrying a mediocre supporting cast to the Finals needs to recall Moses Malone and the 1981 Houston Rockets (40-42 in the regular season).
I thought it was extremely disrespectful to to the rest of the Cavs.
I only had a chance to see the last 6 minutes and the post game interviews and I totally agree. Van Gundy brings it up during the game, Doris Burke says it to LeBron on the court after the game, and then repeats it again to Tyrone Lue during the trophy presentation
with the entire Cavs roster standing behind him.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:34 pm
by Bucktastic365
Hermen wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:08 pm
Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:01 pm
Let me backtrack/rephrase from my statement; I don’t want Marcus Smart SPECIFICALLY, I want his grit and intangibles.
This game made me want only one Celtic; Horford
No love for Tatum?
Well that goes without saying
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:41 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:33 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:48 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:05 pm
Van Gundy's talk of this being an unprecedented instance of a player carrying a mediocre supporting cast to the Finals needs to recall Moses Malone and the 1981 Houston Rockets (40-42 in the regular season).
I thought it was extremely disrespectful to to the rest of the Cavs.
I only had a chance to see the last 6 minutes and the post game interviews and I totally agree. Van Gundy brings it up during the game, Doris Burke says it to LeBron on the court after the game, and then repeats it again to Tyrone Lue during the trophy presentation
with the entire Cavs roster standing behind him.
You could see it on LeBrons face after the presentation when he got the fuck outta there, he was like GTFO with those questions. Was not pleased.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:12 am
by Superbone
In2ition wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:09 pm
Jordan would have had 65/25/19 and won in 5.
True.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:32 am
by BlaCkAdDa
LBJ is so fn good..
Probably not good enough to beat the warriors tho.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 am
by ShelC
I don't think the Cavs can beat GS or Houston. Ugly game between both teams, really disappointing. Not taking anything away from LeBron but the Cs lost that game more than the Cavs won it. Terrible shot selection from both teams, defense was terrible, maybe the moment got to guys like Brown and Rozier. I don't think Stevens got outcoached, he just didn't settle his team down like he should've. I also don't know how anyone watching the Cavs can think Lue does anything during games.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am
by Mori Chu
Lebron was amazing. Willed his team to the Finals again. Really awesome performance from him.
Tonight's Rockets/Warriors game should be really interesting. No idea who will win. GS looked really tentative last time in Houston. I thought they got out of their offense and just let KD try to go 1-on-1 awkwardly against swingmen like Ariza and Gordon. I think if GS keeps the ball moving and lets Curry/Klay carry the offense more, they'll win it. But Houston has that home crowd cheering them on, and all their role players like Tucker, Ariza, Gordon, etc. play so well at home. Even without Chris Paul, I think they have a way better chance to win than a lot of the pundits are giving them.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:57 am
by Cap
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am
Lebron was amazing. Willed his team to the Finals again. Really awesome performance from him.
Tonight's Rockets/Warriors game should be really interesting. No idea who will win. GS looked really tentative last time in Houston. I thought they got out of their offense and just let KD try to go 1-on-1 awkwardly against swingmen like Ariza and Gordon. I think if GS keeps the ball moving and lets Curry/Klay carry the offense more, they'll win it. But Houston has that home crowd cheering them on, and all their role players like Tucker, Ariza, Gordon, etc. play so well at home. Even without Chris Paul, I think they have a way better chance to win than a lot of the pundits are giving them.
Bookies are offering about 5:2 on Houston, which strikes me as excessive.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:28 am
by ShelC
I don't think the Rockets stand a chance, even if Paul plays.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:17 am
by Split T
Warriors are obviously the better team when they want to be, as evidenced by the 40 point win in game 3 and the 30 point swing in the second half of game 6. The question is whether they can turn that on when they need it or if it's a gear they may struggle to find.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:37 am
by INFORMER
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am
Lebron was amazing. Willed his team to the Finals again.
I really can't walk away from that game saying LeBron "willed" his team to the finals. The Celtics were garbage, and played like a team led by guys in their first and second years. LeBron had a phenomenal game, but I don't think his "will" had anything to do with the Celtics playing AWFUL.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:44 am
by Cap
Iguodala ruled out for Game 7, not that it seems they’ve been missing him.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:05 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:57 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am
Lebron was amazing. Willed his team to the Finals again. Really awesome performance from him.
Tonight's Rockets/Warriors game should be really interesting. No idea who will win. GS looked really tentative last time in Houston. I thought they got out of their offense and just let KD try to go 1-on-1 awkwardly against swingmen like Ariza and Gordon. I think if GS keeps the ball moving and lets Curry/Klay carry the offense more, they'll win it. But Houston has that home crowd cheering them on, and all their role players like Tucker, Ariza, Gordon, etc. play so well at home. Even without Chris Paul, I think they have a way better chance to win than a lot of the pundits are giving them.
Bookies are offering about 5:2 on Houston, which strikes me as excessive.
I tried to tell you. But no!
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:09 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 am
I don't think the Cavs can beat GS or Houston. Ugly game between both teams, really disappointing. Not taking anything away from LeBron but the Cs lost that game more than the Cavs won it. Terrible shot selection from both teams, defense was terrible, maybe the moment got to guys like Brown and Rozier. I don't think Stevens got outcoached, he just didn't settle his team down like he should've. I also don't know how anyone watching the Cavs can think Lue does anything during games.
Jeff Van Gundy was asking at the end of the game why Lue isn't getting more credit as a great coach. Well, because you're winning because of LeBron. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a great coach.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:22 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:09 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 am
I don't think the Cavs can beat GS or Houston. Ugly game between both teams, really disappointing. Not taking anything away from LeBron but the Cs lost that game more than the Cavs won it. Terrible shot selection from both teams, defense was terrible, maybe the moment got to guys like Brown and Rozier. I don't think Stevens got outcoached, he just didn't settle his team down like he should've. I also don't know how anyone watching the Cavs can think Lue does anything during games.
Jeff Van Gundy was asking at the end of the game why Lue isn't getting more credit as a great coach. Well, because you're winning because of LeBron. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a great coach.
Well, ya gotta give Lue credit for starting LeBron and playing him a lot of minutes. Brilliant!
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:28 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:22 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:09 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 am
I don't think the Cavs can beat GS or Houston. Ugly game between both teams, really disappointing. Not taking anything away from LeBron but the Cs lost that game more than the Cavs won it. Terrible shot selection from both teams, defense was terrible, maybe the moment got to guys like Brown and Rozier. I don't think Stevens got outcoached, he just didn't settle his team down like he should've. I also don't know how anyone watching the Cavs can think Lue does anything during games.
Jeff Van Gundy was asking at the end of the game why Lue isn't getting more credit as a great coach. Well, because you're winning because of LeBron. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a great coach.
Well, ya gotta give Lue credit for starting LeBron and playing him a lot of minutes. Brilliant!
Good point. I think LeBron played every minute last game. Great, dare I say perfect?, coaching.
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:35 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:28 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:22 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 12:09 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 am
I don't think the Cavs can beat GS or Houston. Ugly game between both teams, really disappointing. Not taking anything away from LeBron but the Cs lost that game more than the Cavs won it. Terrible shot selection from both teams, defense was terrible, maybe the moment got to guys like Brown and Rozier. I don't think Stevens got outcoached, he just didn't settle his team down like he should've. I also don't know how anyone watching the Cavs can think Lue does anything during games.
Jeff Van Gundy was asking at the end of the game why Lue isn't getting more credit as a great coach. Well, because you're winning because of LeBron. I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a great coach.
Well, ya gotta give Lue credit for starting LeBron and playing him a lot of minutes. Brilliant!
Good point. I think LeBron played every minute last game. Great, dare I say perfect?, coaching.
There are 29 head coaches in the league who don’t start LeBron. What are they thinking?!
Re: 2018 NBA Playoffs, Third Round (Conf. Finals)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:54 pm
by Mori Chu
INFORMER wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 10:37 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:48 am
Lebron was amazing. Willed his team to the Finals again.
I really can't walk away from that game saying LeBron "willed" his team to the finals. The Celtics were garbage, and played like a team led by guys in their first and second years. LeBron had a phenomenal game, but I don't think his "will" had anything to do with the Celtics playing AWFUL.
I was just looking at how much he carried the team all series with huge numbers, how nobody else consistently stepped up for Cleveland, and I especially was thinking of that play near the end of Game 7 where the Celtics tried to foul Lebron on his drive, but he still made the layup and flexed and yelled. It was really symbolic to me. They grabbed and tugged on him but they still couldn't stop him. So the Cavs are going to the Finals.