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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:24 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:03 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:51 pm
In the last two playoffs he’s averaged 8.9 and 9.7 RBs. He’s average as fuck. He’s a lean nice washing machine getting thrown into a spin cycle by the opposing team
Haters gonna hate. Best consistently rebounding Sun of all time. The facts don't lie.

Prove him wrong, Deandre!
More like "play up to your contract DeAndre!"

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:44 pm
by virtual9mm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
If Ayton doesn't average at least 15 rebounds per game this season, he's not living up to his potential and is not a rebounding machine.
The funny thing is that he SHOULD be getting 15 a game. He's that talented. All he needs to do is to do stuff like box out.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:13 am
by Superbone
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:44 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
If Ayton doesn't average at least 15 rebounds per game this season, he's not living up to his potential and is not a rebounding machine.
The funny thing is that he SHOULD be getting 15 a game. He's that talented. All he needs to do is to do stuff like box out.
Should? Nah. Nobody in the league averaged that last year. Could? Maybe.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:01 am
by Vladimir_Taltos
It's FTAs that are the measure of his involvement. If he can get his avg up to 5 or better, that would make a big difference imho...

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
by JNix
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
by JeremyG
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:44 am
by AmareIsGod
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
Body of work is far, far more impressive and consistent with Booker. Not even a close comparison.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:53 am
by TOO
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
As opposed to disappearing for a whole series or weeks at a time during the season? You're a silly goose.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am
by Mori Chu
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
The notion that Booker has been "disappearing" in our crucial playoff games is absurd. It doesn't really even merit a response, but I'll just say that our last few elimination games have been bad showings for the full team, all players and the coaching staff included. In many cases the game was so lopsided that our starters weren't even playing most of the 2nd half. As others have said, if you look at the whole body of work, Booker has been an exceptional playoff performer for us. Book is absolutely not the problem.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:30 am
by JNix
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
Ive seen you reach to defend Ayton. But this is next level reaching.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:00 pm
by Superbone
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
I'm giving him a fresh slate with the new coaching staff. Let's see what he does with a second chance.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:00 pm
by Kryptonic
Seems to forget that bookers the reason we were in any of those series…. Hilarious.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:00 pm
by JeremyG
Kryptonic wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:00 pm
Seems to forget that bookers the reason we were in any of those series…. Hilarious.
Lol. Without DA, we are not in the Milwaukee series or the Dallas series.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:02 pm
by JeremyG
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:30 am
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
Ive seen you reach to defend Ayton. But this is next level reaching.
You literally reached back to an elimination game in college. :lol: Overall, DA has been exceptional in clutch moments, big games, playoffs, etc.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:03 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:00 pm
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
I'm giving him a fresh slate with the new coaching staff. Let's see what he does with a second chance.
You said the same shit with Bender. Optimist til the day you die.
I bet you still think Bender just needs the right opportunity

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:05 pm
by JeremyG
Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
The notion that Booker has been "disappearing" in our crucial playoff games is absurd. It doesn't really even merit a response, but I'll just say that our last few elimination games have been bad showings for the full team, all players and the coaching staff included. In many cases the game was so lopsided that our starters weren't even playing most of the 2nd half. As others have said, if you look at the whole body of work, Booker has been an exceptional playoff performer for us. Book is absolutely not the problem.
And Ayton has been an exceptional playoff performer for us in most of the series we've had. Ayton was the only one who showed up in game 6 of the Dallas series. Maybe if Book shows up in that one, we don't even get to an elimination game. I have a feeling the Kendall Jenner rumors were mainly referencing that series. But y'all would rather blame it on Covid. :roll:

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:44 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:03 pm
Superbone wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:00 pm
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
I'm giving him a fresh slate with the new coaching staff. Let's see what he does with a second chance.
You said the same shit with Bender. Optimist til the day you die.
I bet you still think Bender just needs the right opportunity
Yep. He's going to put it all together one of these and and then WATCH OUT! His NBA comeback is going to take the league by STORM. It'll be like Linsanity. Everybody will be talking about BENDER! You will rue the day you ever doubted him.

Oh, and btw, remember Bender Island? I wasn't on it.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:55 pm
by virtual9mm
Mori Chu wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:55 am
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 am
JNix wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:14 am
You guys need to stop falling into "maybe this year he puts it together" trap.

Same DA that disappeared in the NCAA tourney for UofA. Hes been this since day 1 and this will be his game the day he retires.
Yet Booker gets a pass for disappearing in three straight elimination games?
The notion that Booker has been "disappearing" in our crucial playoff games is absurd. It doesn't really even merit a response, but I'll just say that our last few elimination games have been bad showings for the full team, all players and the coaching staff included. In many cases the game was so lopsided that our starters weren't even playing most of the 2nd half. As others have said, if you look at the whole body of work, Booker has been an exceptional playoff performer for us. Book is absolutely not the problem.
Book plays through pain and was clearly not himself in some of these games. Ridiculous take here.

Jeremy -- you make some great points. But don't push into the realm of the ridiculous.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:02 pm
by virtual9mm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:13 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:44 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
If Ayton doesn't average at least 15 rebounds per game this season, he's not living up to his potential and is not a rebounding machine.
The funny thing is that he SHOULD be getting 15 a game. He's that talented. All he needs to do is to do stuff like box out.
Should? Nah. Nobody in the league averaged that last year. Could? Maybe.
He's a generational rebounding talent that is grabbing 10+ boards just coasting through without basic skills like boxing out. He should be grabbing 15 boards.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:39 am
by Superbone
virtual9mm wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:02 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:13 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:44 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
If Ayton doesn't average at least 15 rebounds per game this season, he's not living up to his potential and is not a rebounding machine.
The funny thing is that he SHOULD be getting 15 a game. He's that talented. All he needs to do is to do stuff like box out.
Should? Nah. Nobody in the league averaged that last year. Could? Maybe.
He's a generational rebounding talent that is grabbing 10+ boards just coasting through without basic skills like boxing out. He should be grabbing 15 boards.
Generational? He doesn’t even know how to box out properly. Also been known to stand out of bounds and just watch.