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Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:49 am
Talent-wise, I can see how you trade CP3 for Kyrie, but after all CP3 has done for the franchise and in his career, I don't think it's a good business move to do that without checking with CP3 first. Move CP3 to a 6th man role? Sure, but don't trade him to the other side of the country and his family for a guy who is so volatile that there'd be no guarantee he'd even make it to the post-season without alienating the locker room and/or fanbase.
You mean ask CP3 first if he’s ok with the trade? And if he says no, you don’t do what you believe is best for your franchise? That’s not how teams are run. Plus James Jones was a teammate of Kyrie’s, so he must have felt comfortable making that offer.
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:59 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:49 am
Talent-wise, I can see how you trade CP3 for Kyrie, but after all CP3 has done for the franchise and in his career, I don't think it's a good business move to do that without checking with CP3 first. Move CP3 to a 6th man role? Sure, but don't trade him to the other side of the country and his family for a guy who is so volatile that there'd be no guarantee he'd even make it to the post-season without alienating the locker room and/or fanbase.
You mean ask CP3 first if he’s ok with the trade? And if he says no, you don’t do what you believe is best for your franchise? That’s not how teams are run. Plus James Jones was a teammate of Kyrie’s, so he must have felt comfortable making that offer.
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:10 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:13 pm
by Superbone
This is a pro's pro.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:16 pm
by Split T
It doesn’t sound like Chris Paul was ever actually offered
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:38 pm
by JeremyG
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:41 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:49 am
Talent-wise, I can see how you trade CP3 for Kyrie, but after all CP3 has done for the franchise and in his career, I don't think it's a good business move to do that without checking with CP3 first. Move CP3 to a 6th man role? Sure, but don't trade him to the other side of the country and his family for a guy who is so volatile that there'd be no guarantee he'd even make it to the post-season without alienating the locker room and/or fanbase.
You mean ask CP3 first if he’s ok with the trade? And if he says no, you don’t do what you believe is best for your franchise? That’s not how teams are run. Plus James Jones was a teammate of Kyrie’s, so he must have felt comfortable making that offer.
I actually do think that's the way some teams are run, and I think it's good business for your franchise that if you have a 1st ballot HOFer on your team, who has changed the culture and had a significant impact on elevating your best players, who even orchestrated his move to get here in the first place, yeah, I think you do ask him if he's okay with the trade. Nash wanted to go to LA. Barkley wanted to go to a contender. I think the Chris Pauls, Kevin Garnetts, LeBrons, etc... do get to have some say where and when they go, because they've done so much for their respective teams and the sport in general.
Those were different situations, though. Nash was a free agent (sign-and-trade). And if someone offered us a superstar for Barkley, I bet we would have done it even if it was not a team on his list. And it's not like Brooklyn is not a contender--sending him to play with Durant is not the worst thing ever.
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:41 pm
In my opinion, it's not a good look business wise to trade CP3 for Kyrie. We all lose our minds because Ayton isn't giving 100% all the time? Kyrie does the same thing. And I say that acknowledging that he is a phenomenal player.
As long as he gives 100% in the postseason, I couldn't care less. The dude has been a vital part of winning a championship.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
by JeremyG
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm
wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:49 am
Talent-wise, I can see how you trade CP3 for Kyrie, but after all CP3 has done for the franchise and in his career, I don't think it's a good business move to do that without checking with CP3 first. Move CP3 to a 6th man role? Sure, but don't trade him to the other side of the country and his family for a guy who is so volatile that there'd be no guarantee he'd even make it to the post-season without alienating the locker room and/or fanbase.
You mean ask CP3 first if he’s ok with the trade? And if he says no, you don’t do what you believe is best for your franchise? That’s not how teams are run. Plus James Jones was a teammate of Kyrie’s, so he must have felt comfortable making that offer.
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:56 pm
by JeremyG
It would be pretty strange if Ishbia made Rowley resign and then hired Isiah to a front office position.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:57 pm
by Shabazz
Vaya con dios.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:12 pm
by Superbone
Good riddance from what I hear.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:15 pm
by Superbone
When is Baxter Holmes bobblehead night?
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:16 pm
by JeremyG
Gambo says he talked to Rowley and he told him, "This is just the way these things go."
If the press conference is happening Wednesday morning, then that must mean that the NBA owners are voting today or tomorrow.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:27 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm
You mean ask CP3 first if he’s ok with the trade? And if he says no, you don’t do what you believe is best for your franchise? That’s not how teams are run. Plus James Jones was a teammate of Kyrie’s, so he must have felt comfortable making that offer.
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:28 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:15 pm
When is Baxter Holmes bobblehead night?
Straight to the ring of honor 🎖
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:28 pm
by Wally_West
Isiah Thomas YOU ARE CEO OF PHOENIX SUNS
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:00 pm
by JeremyG
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:27 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.
My point is that paying him a max deal, whether overpaid or not, can help us toward our goal of winning a championship.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:39 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:00 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:27 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.
My point is that paying him a max deal, whether overpaid or not, can help us toward our goal of winning a championship.
Oy, in a system without a salary cap, sure. But this isn't baseball. You can't just throw money at people to build a team.
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:08 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:27 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:46 pm
If you didn’t think Ayton got enough touches with CP3, you’d have been in for a small shock had Kyrie made his way here.
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.
Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?
Re: Suns News: Week 17 (2/6 - 2/12)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:35 pm
by TOO
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:08 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:27 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:44 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:08 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:48 pm
I just want to win a championship man.
Then stop acting like paying a half effort role player a max deal is a good idea.
Stop acting like we make the 2021 Finals without him.
I've never once said he wasn't a huge factor, my issue is he is now overpaid. The end.
Suns make it to the 2021 Finals with Ayton, but also thanks to Monty and CP3, so, the latter 2 should also get a free pass from you as well, right Jeremy?
Also Booker was pretty decent.
