The Mike Budenholzer Problem

[TOO]

Ugh…why is Chauncey Billups always on the list?

The fact that Gambo called him a good coach makes me think something is already cooking. Kill me.

[JeremyG]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

[Superbone]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

[JeremyG]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

[JJ Slim]

Ugh…why is Chauncey Billups always on the list?

Because nobody else wants him.

[Superbone]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

[JJ Slim]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

That's the problem. We need to try harder.

[Cap]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

He’ll have to work pretty hard to catch up to the scandals of the previous guy.

[JeremyG]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

[Superbone]

It’s the Detroit connection. Isiah will hire Chauncey.

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

The rich and powerful are always going to have people going for a piece of their wealth. Show me some facts and then we'll talk. Sarver was a proven scum. There is no proof for Ishbia. By all accounts, he's a solid family man. To throw that phrase out like you did is ugly and TMZ-like.

[TOO]

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

The rich and powerful are always going to have people going for a piece of their wealth. Show me some facts and then we'll talk. Sarver was a proven scum. There is no proof for Ishbia. By all accounts, he's a solid family man. To throw that phrase out like you did is ugly and TMZ-like.

Just another guy who was part of shipping off the bust.

[Superbone]

[ShelC]

Maybe too much was made of the Haynes report but this could just be spin too. I think Book is fiery and wants a coach to match that. Maybe people roll their eyes at the Mamba stuff but Kobe was the same way and I think Book brings that too. Get on that level or get out. And Book's comment about the "get 'em next game" mentality speaks volumes IMO.

[The Bobster]

The problem is Booker is a great scorer like Kobe was, but he's light-years away from being Kobe on defense.

Then there's the Booker-Beal redundancy issue. You aren't going to win with Beal at PG or with Booker at SF.

[JeremyG]

Ugh. So, you're saying it will be JJ out and Thomas in? Bud out and Chauncey in?

Be careful what you wish for.

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

The rich and powerful are always going to have people going for a piece of their wealth. Show me some facts and then we'll talk. Sarver was a proven scum. There is no proof for Ishbia. By all accounts, he's a solid family man. To throw that phrase out like you did is ugly and TMZ-like.

From Grok:

In April 2024, Hunterbrook Media, a newly launched outlet tied to a hedge fund, published an investigative report alleging that Mat Ishbia, CEO of United Wholesale Mortgage (UWM) and owner of the Phoenix Suns, engaged in questionable business practices. The report claimed UWM pressured independent mortgage brokers to steer clients exclusively to UWM, potentially costing borrowers hundreds of millions to billions in excess fees and closing costs, despite the brokers’ role to secure the best deals. It highlighted a 2021 "All In" ultimatum from Ishbia, demanding brokers commit solely to UWM or lose partnership, with data showing a significant increase in brokers sending over 99% of their business to UWM afterward—$39 billion in mortgages by 2023.

The report also featured a leaked, profanity-laced voicemail allegedly from Ishbia to Anthony Casa, celebrating UWM surpassing rival Rocket Mortgage (owned by Dan Gilbert) in 2022, using an antigay slur and aggressive language, which drew condemnation from LGBTQ+ groups like Athlete Ally for fostering a hostile environment. A class-action lawsuit filed the same day in Detroit federal court echoed these allegations, accusing UWM and Ishbia of racketeering and fraud.

**Toxic Workplace Allegations at UWM (2023)**: Over two dozen former and current UWM employees accused the company of fostering a "hostile" environment marked by racial disparities, sexual harassment, bullying by managers, and drug use, though Ishbia himself was not directly accused of these acts.

**Business Disputes (2021)**: Ishbia’s decision to cut ties with brokers working with competitors like Rocket Mortgage sparked legal challenges and a class-action lawsuit against UWM.

**Shareholder Lawsuit (2023)**: Following UWM’s 2021 merger with a SPAC, shareholders filed a lawsuit alleging breach of fiduciary duties.

[TOO]

Buncha nothing. You're the first person I've seen willingly use Grok lol

[JeremyG]

It’s free and version 3 is much better than ChatGPT.

[Kryptonic]

Agree…Bunch of nothing.

I think sterling, sarver and Snyder all set the bar…. You’d probably find those same complaints or worse on any major ceo

[iLLmatic]

Probably. The owner is the one who needs to be fired the most. But none of the scandals seem to have stuck to him so far.

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

The rich and powerful are always going to have people going for a piece of their wealth. Show me some facts and then we'll talk. Sarver was a proven scum. There is no proof for Ishbia. By all accounts, he's a solid family man. To throw that phrase out like you did is ugly and TMZ-like.

From Grok:

In April 2024, Hunterbrook Media, a newly launched outlet tied to a hedge fund, published an investigative report alleging that Mat Ishbia, CEO of United Wholesale Mortgage (UWM) and owner of the Phoenix Suns, engaged in questionable business practices. The report claimed UWM pressured independent mortgage brokers to steer clients exclusively to UWM, potentially costing borrowers hundreds of millions to billions in excess fees and closing costs, despite the brokers’ role to secure the best deals. It highlighted a 2021 "All In" ultimatum from Ishbia, demanding brokers commit solely to UWM or lose partnership, with data showing a significant increase in brokers sending over 99% of their business to UWM afterward—$39 billion in mortgages by 2023.

The report also featured a leaked, profanity-laced voicemail allegedly from Ishbia to Anthony Casa, celebrating UWM surpassing rival Rocket Mortgage (owned by Dan Gilbert) in 2022, using an antigay slur and aggressive language, which drew condemnation from LGBTQ+ groups like Athlete Ally for fostering a hostile environment. A class-action lawsuit filed the same day in Detroit federal court echoed these allegations, accusing UWM and Ishbia of racketeering and fraud.

**Toxic Workplace Allegations at UWM (2023)**: Over two dozen former and current UWM employees accused the company of fostering a "hostile" environment marked by racial disparities, sexual harassment, bullying by managers, and drug use, though Ishbia himself was not directly accused of these acts.

**Business Disputes (2021)**: Ishbia’s decision to cut ties with brokers working with competitors like Rocket Mortgage sparked legal challenges and a class-action lawsuit against UWM.

**Shareholder Lawsuit (2023)**: Following UWM’s 2021 merger with a SPAC, shareholders filed a lawsuit alleging breach of fiduciary duties.

You don’t become a billionaire by being nice to everyone.

[Cap]

What scandals?

There have been many. I guess you’re proof that they haven’t stuck, like I said.

The rich and powerful are always going to have people going for a piece of their wealth. Show me some facts and then we'll talk. Sarver was a proven scum. There is no proof for Ishbia. By all accounts, he's a solid family man. To throw that phrase out like you did is ugly and TMZ-like.

From Grok:

In April 2024, Hunterbrook Media, a newly launched outlet tied to a hedge fund, published an investigative report alleging that Mat Ishbia, CEO of United Wholesale Mortgage (UWM) and owner of the Phoenix Suns, engaged in questionable business practices. The report claimed UWM pressured independent mortgage brokers to steer clients exclusively to UWM, potentially costing borrowers hundreds of millions to billions in excess fees and closing costs, despite the brokers’ role to secure the best deals. It highlighted a 2021 "All In" ultimatum from Ishbia, demanding brokers commit solely to UWM or lose partnership, with data showing a significant increase in brokers sending over 99% of their business to UWM afterward—$39 billion in mortgages by 2023.

The report also featured a leaked, profanity-laced voicemail allegedly from Ishbia to Anthony Casa, celebrating UWM surpassing rival Rocket Mortgage (owned by Dan Gilbert) in 2022, using an antigay slur and aggressive language, which drew condemnation from LGBTQ+ groups like Athlete Ally for fostering a hostile environment. A class-action lawsuit filed the same day in Detroit federal court echoed these allegations, accusing UWM and Ishbia of racketeering and fraud.

**Toxic Workplace Allegations at UWM (2023)**: Over two dozen former and current UWM employees accused the company of fostering a "hostile" environment marked by racial disparities, sexual harassment, bullying by managers, and drug use, though Ishbia himself was not directly accused of these acts.

**Business Disputes (2021)**: Ishbia’s decision to cut ties with brokers working with competitors like Rocket Mortgage sparked legal challenges and a class-action lawsuit against UWM.

**Shareholder Lawsuit (2023)**: Following UWM’s 2021 merger with a SPAC, shareholders filed a lawsuit alleging breach of fiduciary duties.

You don’t become a billionaire by being nice to everyone.

Hold my beer.