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Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:20 am
by Nodack
The censors got censored.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:32 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:44 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:31 am
Mori, what do you think about your former employer and them dismantling their censorship business?
I had never heard of the Stanford Internet Observatory. It sounds like their mission was to help identify misinformation on the internet. There is a lot of that. It might have been a helpful mission. I don't know whether they were helping make the internet better or not, so I am not sure how to react to the news that they are shutting down.
It concerns me that the people working there were being personally targeted for harassment and threats. This article makes it sound like Republicans and MAGAs basically intimidated them into shutting down by threats of violence. Are you happy or proud about this, In2?
I am curious, what exactly did this Stanford group "censor"? It sounds like they just did studies? Did they have some sort of power to remove things from the internet?
But in the past year, the work of researchers at SIO and other institutions studying viral falsehoods and their impact on democracy have become the focus of scrutiny by Republicans in the courts and in Congress, who allege their work amounts to censorship.
The Election Integrity Partnership, a joint project SIO ran with the University of Washington to track false and misleading information about the 2020 and 2022 elections, became the focus of conspiracy theories that it was a front for the government to suppress speech it didn't like. (The EIP's website was updated in recent weeks to say it "will not be working on the 2024 or future elections.")
As a result, researchers at Stanford, UW, and other institutions have been hit with lawsuits, flooded with subpoenas and document requests, and subjected to online harassment and attacks.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/14/g-s1-457 ... al-attacks
Of course I don't want anyone targeted for harassment, intimidation or violence. If anyone thinks I would, they are completely wrong.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:45 am
by In2ition
Shocked!! His employees aren't going to prosecute him? No way.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:07 pm
by In2ition
Oh, look. They are arming themselves. I think the precedent they've set the past 8-9 years will be turned back on them and they will lose everything. Just my prediction.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:17 pm
by In2ition
Here are Domestic terrorists actually planning their activities on Zoom.
https://rumble.com/v5204u3-trolling-for ... sts.-.html
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:18 am
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:45 am
Shocked!! His employees aren't going to prosecute him? No way.
Maybe because he didn't do anything deserving of prosecution?
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:33 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:18 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:45 am
Shocked!! His employees aren't going to prosecute him? No way.
Maybe because he didn't do anything deserving of prosecution?
He defied a Congressional subpoena, and was held in contempt. It might take the Sargeant at Arms to go arrest him. Does anyone remember when Nixon refused to hand over his tapes?
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:44 pm
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:33 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:18 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:45 am
Shocked!! His employees aren't going to prosecute him? No way.
Maybe because he didn't do anything deserving of prosecution?
He defied a Congressional subpoena, and was held in contempt. It might take the Sargeant at Arms to go arrest him. Does anyone remember when Nixon refused to hand over his tapes?
Biden exerted executive privilege over the tapes, so Garland can't hand them over. It's a long standing precedent. He didn't commit any crime.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/13/nx-s1-50 ... d-contempt
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:48 pm
by In2ition
I think the Supreme Court set precedent that he can't use executive privilege over these in the past. I imagine that they will eventually be turned over. They are protecting them so much, that it's either a distraction or they are damning.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:23 am
by In2ition
Here's the irony, this is used by their militant arm of the Dems, Antifa, so they aren't identified. Also the fed boys, Patriot Front, who get arrested or detained, but don't have to lower their masks during it. Also, it wasn't just 18 months ago that Hochul was filmed at an Elementary school with kids that were FORCED to wear a mask, while she didn't have to.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:58 am
by Nodack
Militant arm of the Dems?
How ‘antifa’ became a Trump catch-all
Antifa doesn’t appear to have any organizing structure, but it has become a potent term for conservatives — a quick way to brand part of the opposition.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/0 ... all-297921
More than half of Republicans still believe debunked conspiracy that Capitol riot was Antifa plot
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 98786.html
Trump supporter charged for faking arson attack he blamed on Antifa and BLM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 22345.html
Marjorie Taylor Greene still claims Antifa behind Jan 6 despite 875 arrests, 360 convictions and House probe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40383.html
Anger as Trump lawyer says Antifa leader was first Capitol rioter arrested and first to be let go
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01694.html
Jan. 6 rioters the far right claimed were antifa keep getting unmasked as Trump supporters
Misinformation about the Capitol attack continues to go viral on the right, but the claims are slowly getting debunked, federal case by federal case.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... rcna125369
Sarah Palin claims Capitol rioters were Antifa masquerading as Trump supporters
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83857.html
Arrest records disprove Trump’s claims that Antifa caused disruption during Black Lives Matter protests
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 86421.html
Purported Trump supporter who claimed Antifa burned down his camper admits to staged attack, DOJ says
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/us/trump ... index.html
Minnesota Trump Fan Admits to Staging Antifa-Inspired Arson Attack
https://www.thedailybeast.com/minnesota ... son-attack
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:03 am
by Superbone
Of course. Only to the brainwashed minions.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:03 pm
by In2ition
Fake news
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:53 pm
by Kryptonic
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:01 am
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:23 am
Here's the irony, this is used by their militant arm of the Dems, Antifa, so they aren't identified.
Get out of here with that BS.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:11 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:01 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:23 am
Here's the irony, this is used by their militant arm of the Dems, Antifa, so they aren't identified.
Get out of here with that BS.
You are just upset, because it's true. They've been the extremist group that you've stuck up for ,because they've always been the ones on the Dems side consistently.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:31 pm
by Nodack
There have been zero people killed by Intifada ever as far as I can tell. The GOP considers them a real threat to America.
68 people died from Vaping. We had a Congressional hearing on it
183,000 die every single year in the US from poverty. <birds chirping>
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:48 pm
by In2ition
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:31 pm
There have been zero people killed by Intifada ever as far as I can tell. The GOP considers them a real threat to America.
68 people died from Vaping. We had a Congressional hearing on it
183,000 die every single year in the US from poverty. <birds chirping>
I'll tell Aaron Danielson that.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:52 pm
by Nodack
I had to look that up. You are right. Some Antifa supporter did kill some right wing guy. I stand corrected.
1 person has died from an Antifa supporter.
68 people died from Vaping.
178,000 dead from drinking every year
300,000 dead from obesity every year.
183,000 die every single year in the US from poverty.
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/mu ... tates-2023
All the extremist-related murders in 2023 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, with 15 of the 17 killings involving perpetrators or accomplices with white supremacist connections. This is the second year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings.
Re: The Democrats
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:15 am
by Mori Chu
FBI raids home of Oakland's mayor?