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Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:29 am
by Indy
A worse move (arguably) would be to not extend him and lose him for nothing (because if we aren't going to extend him, I can't see us wanting to match the max deal he receives).

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:42 am
by ShelC
My big fear is that Paul makes him look good this year and next, he gets the max and then in 2 years doesn't have Paul making things easier for him and reverts back - assuming we don't add another high level PG who can push him and keep him going.

My biggest fear is he gets his max and comes into the following training camp looking like Jerome James.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:46 am
by Mori Chu
jonh wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:21 am
Is it the worst move? This feels like an exaggeration. The worst move the Suns could make this offseason would be things like offering Dragon Bender a max contract, hiring you as a PR rep to hype the return of Kelly Oubre, partnering with head and shoulders in order to entice Rubio to come back to the team, or deciding that Sarver should answer post-game questions from the media every game. To me, I would classify giving Ayton a max salary as a questionable decision, rather than the worst move.
Go on...

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:35 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:11 am
Like, I get it. That is why you put in the work. They are not doing this for free and they shouldn't be. They should try and get the most money they can get. But you need to know not to say the quiet part out loud. And it makes me worry that once we give him the max extension, he doesn't have to try hard anymore.
I actually don't. I like getting paid too but I also like my job and want to do the best I can at it even if I wasn't being paid well. But just like sports, the two go hand in hand. I keep working at my craft and I keep getting paid better.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:40 pm
by Wally_West
This board overreacts so much with Ayton. :lol:

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:07 pm
by Mori Chu
I don't like Ayton's comments about getting big contracts. But I think a lot of other players feel the same way, they just have the experience and common sense not to say it out loud. I've chased raises and contracts and promotions in my career, too. I don't mind if that's a goal he has set for himself as long as he also puts in work to be a better player and earn that deal rather than thinking of it as the end goal in itself.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:30 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:35 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:11 am
Like, I get it. That is why you put in the work. They are not doing this for free and they shouldn't be. They should try and get the most money they can get. But you need to know not to say the quiet part out loud. And it makes me worry that once we give him the max extension, he doesn't have to try hard anymore.
I actually don't. I like getting paid too but I also like my job and want to do the best I can at it even if I wasn't being paid well. But just like sports, the two go hand in hand. I keep working at my craft and I keep getting paid better.
Yeah, for us commoners, sure.

But let's say you like working in audio design for video games. But you don't like working in graphic hardware design. You don't*hate* it, but it doesn't interest you all that much.

But you could do it better than most people in the world. And if you could do it well enough for 3 years, someone would give you a guaranteed contract for 5 years at 30M per.

I think you would find a way to make yourself like it enough until you got to that contract, but would you want to spend every waking minute training to be better at that job once you had that contract they couldn't take away from you? It is really hard to stay motivated in a job you think is OK, but don't love. Especially if you don't even need the job and will get paid anyway.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:43 pm
by Atreides
Wally_West wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:40 pm
This board overreacts so much with Ayton. :lol:
Yeah, I think that we should just be patient with him. He has all the tools, but just need some time to work it all out. Wow I'm talking like Monty now :oops:

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:03 pm
by Indy
Atreides wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:43 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:40 pm
This board overreacts so much with Ayton. :lol:
Yeah, I think that we should just be patient with him. He has all the tools, but just need some time to work it all out. Wow I'm talking like Monty now :oops:
:lol:

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:49 pm
by Indy
ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:15 pm
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Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:58 pm
by Superbone
Well... as long as they promise.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:22 pm
by Shabazz
They probably figured we've survived the last 10 years as Suns fans, how bad can this Covid thing be in comparison?

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:33 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
The Suns have surely affected my liver more than COVID ever will.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:40 pm
by specialsauce
I just don’t understand why these sporting events with social distancing can’t do a better job of distancing.

For example, I’ve seen fans in the stands of football stadiums. They allow 2K fans in, and instead of spreading them across the stadium for maximum distancing- they put them all in one section. Like, wtf? You understand that 6 feet is a recommendation but if someone sneezes it does travel a hell of a lot further than that. You have a 70k capacity stadium and you put all 2k in one section.

If the Suns were allowing 1500 in and truly utilizing the entire arena to spread each group as far away from each other as possible along the lower bowl- I would go.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:01 pm
by ShelC
I think from an operations standpoint it costs less money keeping most, if not all fans, in one or two sections since it cuts down on needing staff like ticket takers, ushers, security, concessions in other areas across the stadium/arena. Why open up and staff the entire arena when you get can 1500 in and out and confined to one area?

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:03 pm
by specialsauce
ShelC wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:01 pm
I think from an operations standpoint it costs less money keeping most, if not all fans, in one or two sections since it cuts down on needing staff like ticket takers, ushers, security, concessions in other areas across the stadium/arena. Why open up and staff the entire arena when you get can 1500 in and out and confined to one area?
Oh I don’t know, maybe so you kill less families.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:09 pm
by ShelC
Yea but money.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:37 pm
by specialsauce
ShelC wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:09 pm
Yea but money.
Get rich or die tryin’

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:21 am
by Split T


Only 3 teams worse than us on wide open 3’s.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 2/1-2/7

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:16 am
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:21 am


Only 3 teams worse than us on wide open 3’s.
Well, last night was a great example of it. Both Booker and Cam were missing wide open 3s. And then it seemed like the Pelicans couldn't miss from 3 in the 2nd half.