Re: Around the NBA: Week 11 (Dec 30 - Jan 5)
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:52 pm
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I just want to get back to fun basketball. Don’t giveWally_West wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:46 pmI feel terrible but I need this Jimmy trade to happen.
This is a collab with Saucey. We both want this Jimmy trade
Crazy. He trades four picks and three swaps for a team everybody hates, and at the same time has everybody confident that he’s going to assemble a team we love when he doesn’t have four picks and three swaps to spend. I haven’t seen persuasion ability like that outside of a certain person I shouldn’t mention on this forum.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:36 pmYou could easily trade and repeat. KD and Booker are much more valuable assets than a couple first round picks. Theres not a team in the league that wouldn't offer two first rounders for each of them if we wanted and there's a reasom for that.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 pmThat “actual proven talent” has actually proven to be a lot less than we were hoping when we traded away our mystical magical theoretical picks for a mystical magical theoretical team that hasn’t come together.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:36 pmI don't regret trading those picks at all.
We have KD. We have Booker. I'm sure in the future we'll sign another top end FA when we have cap space. At any point we could flip those for picks if we decide we'd rather have mystical magical theoretical picks that are a complete shot in the dark rather than actual proven talent
Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:16 pmCrazy. He trades four picks and three swaps for a team everybody hates, and at the same time has everybody confident that he’s going to assemble a team we love when he doesn’t have four picks and three swaps to spend. I haven’t seen persuasion ability like that outside of a certain person I shouldn’t mention on this forum.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:36 pmYou could easily trade and repeat. KD and Booker are much more valuable assets than a couple first round picks. Theres not a team in the league that wouldn't offer two first rounders for each of them if we wanted and there's a reasom for that.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 pmThat “actual proven talent” has actually proven to be a lot less than we were hoping when we traded away our mystical magical theoretical picks for a mystical magical theoretical team that hasn’t come together.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:36 pmI don't regret trading those picks at all.
We have KD. We have Booker. I'm sure in the future we'll sign another top end FA when we have cap space. At any point we could flip those for picks if we decide we'd rather have mystical magical theoretical picks that are a complete shot in the dark rather than actual proven talent
We will speak the fuck out of this into existence!!Wally_West wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:46 pmI feel terrible but I need this Jimmy trade to happen.
This is a collab with Saucey. We both want this Jimmy trade
Are you talking about Ishbia or James Jones? I can’t speak for other people, but I’m not optimistic because I’m confident in Jones/Ishbia…I do think it’s nice Ishbia doesn’t seem to care about costs at all…that does make it easier.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:16 pmCrazy. He trades four picks and three swaps for a team everybody hates, and at the same time has everybody confident that he’s going to assemble a team we love when he doesn’t have four picks and three swaps to spend. I haven’t seen persuasion ability like that outside of a certain person I shouldn’t mention on this forum.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:36 pmYou could easily trade and repeat. KD and Booker are much more valuable assets than a couple first round picks. Theres not a team in the league that wouldn't offer two first rounders for each of them if we wanted and there's a reasom for that.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 pmThat “actual proven talent” has actually proven to be a lot less than we were hoping when we traded away our mystical magical theoretical picks for a mystical magical theoretical team that hasn’t come together.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:36 pmI don't regret trading those picks at all.
We have KD. We have Booker. I'm sure in the future we'll sign another top end FA when we have cap space. At any point we could flip those for picks if we decide we'd rather have mystical magical theoretical picks that are a complete shot in the dark rather than actual proven talent
I doubt he would. Even if he would, I think he’s handicapped our ability to do it. His inability to tolerate it is exactly why he had no qualms about handicapping our ability to do it.Split T wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:32 pmAre you talking about Ishbia or James Jones? I can’t speak for other people, but I’m not optimistic because I’m confident in Jones/Ishbia…I do think it’s nice Ishbia doesn’t seem to care about costs at all…that does make it easier.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:16 pmCrazy. He trades four picks and three swaps for a team everybody hates, and at the same time has everybody confident that he’s going to assemble a team we love when he doesn’t have four picks and three swaps to spend. I haven’t seen persuasion ability like that outside of a certain person I shouldn’t mention on this forum.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:36 pmYou could easily trade and repeat. KD and Booker are much more valuable assets than a couple first round picks. Theres not a team in the league that wouldn't offer two first rounders for each of them if we wanted and there's a reasom for that.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 pmThat “actual proven talent” has actually proven to be a lot less than we were hoping when we traded away our mystical magical theoretical picks for a mystical magical theoretical team that hasn’t come together.specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:36 pm
I don't regret trading those picks at all.
We have KD. We have Booker. I'm sure in the future we'll sign another top end FA when we have cap space. At any point we could flip those for picks if we decide we'd rather have mystical magical theoretical picks that are a complete shot in the dark rather than actual proven talent
What we mostly seem to be arguing is whether or not the suns can get anything of value for the team they currently have. That’s probably not even the right question. I think the suns could easily restock if they decided to trade KD/Book(Beal is a different story). The real question is whether Ishbia would tolerate a rebuild.
That’s what I’m expecting.The more likely doom scenario is we just keep the trio we currently have together and just keep shuffling the pieces around it…maybe change out a major piece every few years. That’s what I’m worried about.
We’re one of the four that didn’t. (2004-05)That's nine straight for the Cavs. They're now 30-4, a start matched by only 10 teams ever; six of them won the title.