I thought he was listed as 260 this past season. He's gaining muscle easily while cutting body fat. I wish I won the genetic lottery like he did, haha. I wouldn't be surprised if he gained another 10 lbs of muscle before the season, bit he really needs to focus on improving his agility and flexibility while doing it.
Yeah, he must be on that eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up, test your limits routine ahah.
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:16 am
by TOO
He's gonna end up with that prime Dwight Howard build, where it looks like he's a human statue. Too big and strong for 90% of the NBA to guard.
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“And then the upside factor. I know we’re in a league right now where we look in the finals and we’ve got guys out there who are, I guess we say positionless. And you probably say, ‘What’s the role for a center? Shouldn’t we look at Luka Doncic maybe, more of a wing or a guard here?’ and I say, ‘Don’t get cute with the draft.’ Eventually, this cycle is going to end and we’re probably going to get back in the day and age where bigs are dominant again.”
I'm not really sure how drafting Doncic is "getting cute."
And sorry to break it to Bobby, but the league isn't going to slow down, .
but donkic IS SLOW!
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Why are people still bringing up Oden/Durant as a comparison for Ayton/Doncic?
Oden failed because his body broke down, not because of a lack of ability. And Durant was considered the clear #2 prospect that year. He just came off a freshman year where he averaged 25,8 points ans was a consensus first team All-American. I don't think it was a surprise to anyone that year that they went 1-2 in the draft.
And I think both Ayton and Doncic will have successful NBA careers.
Speaking of the big’s body breaking down...
Ayton is listed at 250 lbs., but he’s just 19 years old. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ultimately has a playing weight around 265-270. I wonder if the combination of that with a 44 inch vertical might be a recipe for knee injuries in the long run.
I thought he was listed as 260 this past season. He's gaining muscle easily while cutting body fat. I wish I won the genetic lottery like he did, haha. I wouldn't be surprised if he gained another 10 lbs of muscle before the season, bit he really needs to focus on improving his agility and flexibility while doing it.
Why are people still bringing up Oden/Durant as a comparison for Ayton/Doncic?
Oden failed because his body broke down, not because of a lack of ability. And Durant was considered the clear #2 prospect that year. He just came off a freshman year where he averaged 25,8 points ans was a consensus first team All-American. I don't think it was a surprise to anyone that year that they went 1-2 in the draft.
And I think both Ayton and Doncic will have successful NBA careers.
Speaking of the big’s body breaking down...
Ayton is listed at 250 lbs., but he’s just 19 years old. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ultimately has a playing weight around 265-270. I wonder if the combination of that with a 44 inch vertical might be a recipe for knee injuries in the long run.
I thought he was listed as 260 this past season. He's gaining muscle easily while cutting body fat. I wish I won the genetic lottery like he did, haha. I wouldn't be surprised if he gained another 10 lbs of muscle before the season, bit he really needs to focus on improving his agility and flexibility while doing it.
"He was a 7-foot-1 center who weighed 243 pounds with enviable 10.7 percent body fat, despite never lifting a weight in his life. ... After, uh, ejecting some nutrients from his body on that July day, he added 30 pounds of muscle.
It sounds like science fiction, the idea of three or four years of gains condensed to the nine or 10 months permitted by the one-and-done dynamic. ... From mid-July to mid-January, Ayton swelled from 243 pounds to 261 pounds while dropping his body fat to a preposterous 5.4 percent." https://theathletic.com/239358/2018/02/ ... na-desert/
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:07 am
by jonh
I had a crazy thought about the different statements that were made yesterday about several team members hanging out with Ayton (its probably because a lot of my colleagues do work on diversity in groups)--even in some crazy situation where we can pick up the #4 and get both Ayton & Doncic, would the players end up picking sides between the two players? With a European coach, and having team members like Bender on the roster, I wonder if it would end up dividing the locker room.
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I had a crazy thought about the different statements that were made yesterday about several team members hanging out with Ayton (its probably because a lot of my colleagues do work on diversity in groups)--even in some crazy situation where we can pick up the #4 and get both Ayton & Doncic, would the players end up picking sides between the two players? With a European coach, and having team members like Bender on the roster, I wonder if it would end up dividing the locker room.
It's possible that it could take place, but if everyone's goal is to win, then it goes by the wayside. I was thinking the same thing, like there could be a divide between a Booker camp and a Doncic camp, as Doncic would take away a lot of Booker's and Josh's usage rate.
Almost makes me want to see the Suns move up to get Trae Young, who fills a glaring hole as a pg, facilitator, 3 pt marksman, and engine of the team getting EVERYONE fed.
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:21 am
by Split T
Move up for Trae and just say forget about playing defense. A Trae/Booker backcourt with Ayton as the anchor would give up a lot of points, but we'd be a lot of fun.
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Move up for Trae and just say forget about playing defense. A Trae/Booker backcourt with Ayton as the anchor would give up a lot of points, but we'd be a lot of fun.
Haha, exactly. Double the offense and half the defense...muhahaha
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Move up for Trae and just say forget about playing defense. A Trae/Booker backcourt with Ayton as the anchor would give up a lot of points, but we'd be a lot of fun.
Is losing still fun?
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:04 pm
by AmareIsGod
Beast.
Those offensive rebound slams. The way he moves for a 7ft, 250+ lb player.
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Edit: Why is it so hard to link / embed a YouTube video in a post?
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
I had a crazy thought about the different statements that were made yesterday about several team members hanging out with Ayton (its probably because a lot of my colleagues do work on diversity in groups)--even in some crazy situation where we can pick up the #4 and get both Ayton & Doncic, would the players end up picking sides between the two players? With a European coach, and having team members like Bender on the roster, I wonder if it would end up dividing the locker room.
Why would there be any division? You figure Doncic would resent Ayton for being drafted ahead of him? Why would there be sides to pick?
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
I had a crazy thought about the different statements that were made yesterday about several team members hanging out with Ayton (its probably because a lot of my colleagues do work on diversity in groups)--even in some crazy situation where we can pick up the #4 and get both Ayton & Doncic, would the players end up picking sides between the two players? With a European coach, and having team members like Bender on the roster, I wonder if it would end up dividing the locker room.
Why would there be any division? You figure Doncic would resent Ayton for being drafted ahead of him? Why would there be sides to pick?
I have faith that Sarver could find a way.
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Move up for Trae and just say forget about playing defense. A Trae/Booker backcourt with Ayton as the anchor would give up a lot of points, but we'd be a lot of fun.
Is losing still fun?
It would be more fun than the last 8 years. For the record, I'm not in favor of moving up for Trae.
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
Move up for Trae and just say forget about playing defense. A Trae/Booker backcourt with Ayton as the anchor would give up a lot of points, but we'd be a lot of fun.
Is losing still fun?
Are you guaranteeing that they would lose?
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
What do you guys think of Chandler + Duds + 16 for Parsons + 4. Maybe we need to sweeten it a bit and throw in the Milwaukee pick. I'd do this trade in heartbeat if doncic falls past Sacto.
Memphis wouldn't make that trade even with the Milwaukee pick.
I agree that isn't enough. What do you think it would take?
Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:58 pm
by Cap
Great. I post a concern about Ayton’s knees, and then get a scouting video comparing him to Embiid and Oden.
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