NBA FA 2020 & Suns FA targets

[Mori Chu]

Fyi, I'm in hardcore Covid quarantine in Australia not even allowed to leave my hotel room. Bored out of my mind and jet lagged like you wouldn't believe coming from UK so sleeping all sorts of weird hours. Is the reason I'm in here quite a lot atm and will likely be for four more days yet.

Have to say it feels weird as hell being a prisoner and its not recommended (but I have a nice hotel room - a suite actually - at government expense, so could be worse .. and the NBA is on free to air TV which is great)

That sounds pretty awful. Hope you're finding ways to keep your sanity. Can you at least watch the NBA games each day? Basically I watch the games and try to keep my kids from cracking their heads open all day, and then try to get some work done in between; that's my routine. It's rough and repetitive; I hope COVID gets better some day soon.

[specialsauce]

I’m not trading DA for Turner. No way.

If you have Simmons? Turner is a good 3 pt shooter and is a great defensive anchor. He just makes way more sense than Ayton on a Booker/Simmons team. I also added Aaron Holiday coming our way.

Honestly I’m not sure Indy would go for it. Sabonis/Ayton is not a great pairing.

I think DA is far more valuable

[Mori Chu]

If the Suns traded DA for Miles Turner, I'd quit watching the team for years out of rage and spite.

[specialsauce]

If the Suns traded DA for Miles Turner, I'd quit watching the team for years out of rage and spite.

Thank you.

I’d rather have the DA we have NOW over Myles, let alone the DA he may become in the next 3-4 years

[Split T]

Turner dropped off a little this year, still a 35% three point shooter who blocked 2.1 shots a game. Shot 39% last year and blocked 2.7 shots a game. He’s also only 24 still.

Again, this is all in a hypothetical world where we trade for Ben Simmons. I don’t want Ayton and Simmons on the same team. We’d need a stretch 5 in that situation. If you can get Turner and Holiday and already have Booker/Simmons, I’d do it.

[Ring_Wanted]

Simmons-Booker-Ayton has plenty of room for role players to cover their respective weaknesses, and it's hard to imagine a more potent core in the not so distant post Lebron era.

Switchability is all the rage among big men on defense now.

[Split T]

Simmons-Booker-Ayton has plenty of room for role players to cover their respective weaknesses, and it's hard to imagine a more potent core in the not so distant post Lebron era.

Switchability is all the rage among big men on defense now.

I just think Ayton and Simmons get in each others way offensively. One would have to shoot. Maybe that’s what Ayton becomes offensively though.

[Ring_Wanted]

Simmons-Booker-Ayton has plenty of room for role players to cover their respective weaknesses, and it's hard to imagine a more potent core in the not so distant post Lebron era.

Switchability is all the rage among big men on defense now.

I just think Ayton and Simmons get in each others way offensively. One would have to shoot. Maybe that’s what Ayton becomes offensively though.

I can see Ayton settings screens to give Simmons an advantage, with Booker being one of the options to kick out the ball (which means ar least one guy completely alone).

[Indy]

Simmons-Booker-Ayton has plenty of room for role players to cover their respective weaknesses, and it's hard to imagine a more potent core in the not so distant post Lebron era.

Switchability is all the rage among big men on defense now.

I just think Ayton and Simmons get in each others way offensively. One would have to shoot. Maybe that’s what Ayton becomes offensively though.

I can see Ayton settings screens to give Simmons an advantage, with Booker being one of the options to kick out the ball (which means ar least one guy completely alone).

this. and i do think Ayton can become that stretch offensive big man, because he isn't going to dominate in the paint (on offense).

[Split T]

Maybe he can, I’m just worried as Sixers don’t know what to do when Simmons doesn’t have the ball. You could use him as a roll man, but then you’ve got to get Ayton out of the way. If his shot develops enough it won’t be a problem. We could run some fun Simmons as a point Center bench lineups when Ayton rests. It’s doable, would just need to game plan it.

[O_Gardino]

Simmons is talented, but that free throw shooting scares me.

[specialsauce]

Turner dropped off a little this year, still a 35% three point shooter who blocked 2.1 shots a game. Shot 39% last year and blocked 2.7 shots a game. He’s also only 24 still.

Again, this is all in a hypothetical world where we trade for Ben Simmons. I don’t want Ayton and Simmons on the same team. We’d need a stretch 5 in that situation. If you can get Turner and Holiday and already have Booker/Simmons, I’d do it.

So you’d sell low on DA because you got Simmons? Makes no sense to me. I get you don’t like the fit. But if I’m trading DA it’s for a star.

[Split T]

I just don’t think Ayton is going to fetch a star. I also am obviously just higher on Turner than you guys.

[Mori Chu]

Maybe we can pay Indiana a second-round pick to take Ayton off our hands for nothing...

[In2ition]

I just don’t think Ayton is going to fetch a star. I also am obviously just higher on Turner than you guys.

I think we all saw Ayton vs Turner, along with other Indy games in the bubble and I have to say that I'm not impressed. Nor are Indy fans. I wouldn't trade DA for Turner. I kind of think that it seems Turner is near his ceiling, and DA is already better(imo) and just scratching the surface.

[Indy]

I am ok with paying Oubre next year, assuming we have doneee things right this summer (it is, added a PF aand a backup PG with the resources available).

As for Rubio, I just don't see anyone able to give us similar production for 9M per (that's MLE range; just not going to happen). With Rubio, we have been top at passing and transition. Moving him would be no minor tweak. Of course, if you can find me a move in the mold of Jason Williams for Mike Bibby, I am all ears.

If we pay Oubre after next year, how would you extend Ayton and Mikal?

With money

But that would be a bridge ( ) I'd cross when I get to it. Before worrying about a roster too expensive, I need to assemble a team that is credibly worth the trouble.

That is a very solid point. I will concede that.

While trying not to over-react to 8 games... Cam and Mikal look like they can handle the 3/4 for the next few years. We have limited resources, and I think we should be investing it in back up 1/2 and 4/5. There may be nothing out there for Ricky. As INF said, PG is a pretty deep position across the league. Maybe nobody is interested in giving up good things for him at what he is getting paid. I would get that.

You don't think we need a better starter at PF? The kids are holding their own, but in my opinion, adding a player like Millsap, Woods or Ibaka gives the team a lift in comparison to keeping Saric-Baynes.

the more i watch Millsap today, the more I am on board.

[O_Gardino]

Ayton was pretty up and down in those bubble games. 4 really good ones and 4 stinkers. Good Ayton is a star we could build around. Stinker Ayton is worse than Miles Turner.

I'm really looking forward to watching him play next year. It's going to be a ride.

[In2ition]

I figure he's going to come with an improvement or new skill in one area. Does he come with an aggressive drive to the basket game that draws fouls? Or is it consistency of play that we see? Either one would be an improvement.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I've been as harsh of a critic on Ayton as most, but trading him in a deal that nets Myles Turner as the main returning player is a disaster.

[Superbone]

Ayton has just scratched the surface to what he will become. Don’t sell low! Even though I get very frustrated with his non-aggressive play, I still have high hopes for him.