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Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:10 pm
by Mori Chu
This is just a random isolated clip. I don't think it indicates any serious cognitive problem with Trump. But people see clips just like this of Biden and say he has dementia and is too old and unwell. I think if you watch Trump you see little senior moments like this, too. They are both old candidates and both are past their cognitive prime.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:58 pm
by JeremyG
It looks more like his teleprompter quit working and he panicked and had to start ad-libbing lol.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:34 am
by In2ition
Yeah, that's not a senior moment. I'm not sure what wasn't understood about this or how it was seen as a senior moment.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:16 am
by Mori Chu
This guy is openly saying that he thinks he should be allowed to do literally anything and should never be able to be held accountable or liable for any of it. He wants to be given absolute power.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:29 am
by In2ition
I don't think that's what he's saying. It's like saying that Biden should be held responsible for droning that family in Afghanistan. Or Obama for droning and bombing civilians every 20 minutes of his presidency. Should they be dragged out of their homes and be tried for each?
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:56 am
by In2ition
I've heard this a few times on this site. "No one is above the law" right?
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:13 am
by Mori Chu
This logic is dumb. Presidents don't get locked up for standard actions they perform as POTUS or as Commander in Chief. They get locked up if they literally try to overthrow American democracy, overturn elections, if they commit massive fraud or accept bribes, other openly illegal and corrupt things. Nobody is trying to go throw W Bush in jail for his bogus invasion of Iraq, or jail Obama for some military strike, or whatever nonsense you're citing here.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:24 am
by In2ition
No, that's the logic you are using and the precedent that you want set. We know that's the precedent, because by your own posts, where you claimed that he wanted to kill a political rival or oppenent from a stupid hypothetical question by the judge to his lawyer and you pushed it. You only want it to apply to Trump and whatever you think he did. His job was to look into reports of interference in the election, and he was doing that. He didn't try to "overthrow American democracy, overturn elections" like you guys are so fond of falsely saying. So silly.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:38 am
by Nodack
I blame the banks for trying to debank our political beliefs. I say we debank them first and electric cars.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:08 am
by JeremyG
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:56 am
I've heard this a few times on this site. "No one is above the law" right?
He should have been held to account on it in 2011. The problem is that even the “opposition party” (GOP) was on his side because “war on terror = good, Constitution be damned”—so there was no one to hold him accountable, except Ron Paul.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:53 am
by Nodack
More from the same article.
Two U.S. officials speaking on condition of anonymity stated that the target of the October 14, 2011, airstrike was Ibrahim al-Banna, an Egyptian believed to be a senior operative in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[8] Another U.S. administration official speaking on condition of anonymity described Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as a bystander who was "in the wrong place at the wrong time", stating that "the U.S. government did not know that Mr. Awlaki's son was there" before the airstrike was ordered.
It was an ordered hit on an Al Qaeda leader. It wasn’t a targeted assassination of a 16 year old kid. I’m s it legal? A President can assassinate his own rival and not be liable. Certainly he can kill a terrorist leader. It was done on another country’s soil. Is that legal or ethical? Trump got Iraq to invite the military leader of Iran to Iraq for a meeting and drone striked his ass as soon as he landed at the airport. Israel has been targeting Hamas in Gaza and has killed 20,000 civilians.
Is this some big Obama scandal? This is just people talking.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:29 pm
by In2ition
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:08 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:56 am
I've heard this a few times on this site. "No one is above the law" right?
He should have been held to account on it in 2011. The problem is that even the “opposition party” (GOP) was on his side because “war on terror = good, Constitution be damned”—so there was no one to hold him accountable, except Ron Paul.
I'm do not disagree with you on those failures of the past. The GOP wasn't so grand then, nor are they now.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:36 pm
by In2ition
Nodack wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:53 am
More from the same article.
Two U.S. officials speaking on condition of anonymity stated that the target of the October 14, 2011, airstrike was Ibrahim al-Banna, an Egyptian believed to be a senior operative in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[8] Another U.S. administration official speaking on condition of anonymity described Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as a bystander who was "in the wrong place at the wrong time", stating that "the U.S. government did not know that Mr. Awlaki's son was there" before the airstrike was ordered.
It was an ordered hit on an Al Qaeda leader. It wasn’t a targeted assassination of a 16 year old kid. I’m s it legal? A President can assassinate his own rival and not be liable. Certainly he can kill a terrorist leader. It was done on another country’s soil. Is that legal or ethical? Trump got Iraq to invite the military leader of Iran to Iraq for a meeting and drone striked his ass as soon as he landed at the airport. Israel has been targeting Hamas in Gaza and has killed 20,000 civilians.
Is this some big Obama scandal? This is just people talking.
Oh, because he was considered a terrorist leader, it's ok to kill an American citizen in colateral damage, as long as you claim you didn't know they were there? Ok.
Is it some big Obama scandal? Probably not, just people talking. Just like that he killed more innocent civilians through bombings and drone strikes that than any President before. Or that he had a bomb dropped or drone strike on foreign soil every 20 minutes of his entire 2 terms.
Are their other big Obama scandals that could be brought up? Sure.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:26 pm
by Mori Chu
ROFL. It's clear that all he is concerned about are the indictments against him. Also: his skin looks either over tanned or over made up, and his hair looks like Wolverine.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:09 am
by Nodack
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:36 pm
Nodack wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:53 am
More from the same article.
Two U.S. officials speaking on condition of anonymity stated that the target of the October 14, 2011, airstrike was Ibrahim al-Banna, an Egyptian believed to be a senior operative in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[8] Another U.S. administration official speaking on condition of anonymity described Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as a bystander who was "in the wrong place at the wrong time", stating that "the U.S. government did not know that Mr. Awlaki's son was there" before the airstrike was ordered.
It was an ordered hit on an Al Qaeda leader. It wasn’t a targeted assassination of a 16 year old kid. I’m s it legal? A President can assassinate his own rival and not be liable. Certainly he can kill a terrorist leader. It was done on another country’s soil. Is that legal or ethical? Trump got Iraq to invite the military leader of Iran to Iraq for a meeting and drone striked his ass as soon as he landed at the airport. Israel has been targeting Hamas in Gaza and has killed 20,000 civilians.
Is this some big Obama scandal? This is just people talking.
Oh, because he was considered a terrorist leader, it's ok to kill an American citizen in colateral damage, as long as you claim you didn't know they were there? Ok.
Is it some big Obama scandal? Probably not, just people talking. Just like that he killed more innocent civilians through bombings and drone strikes that than any President before. Or that he had a bomb dropped or drone strike on foreign soil every 20 minutes of his entire 2 terms.
Are their other big Obama scandals that could be brought up? Sure.
Let me know how that crusade works out.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:19 am
by Kryptonic
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:26 pm
ROFL. It's clear that all he is concerned about are the indictments against him. Also: his skin looks either over tanned or over made up, and his hair looks like Wolverine.
The new hawtness!
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:42 am
by Nodack
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:19 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:26 pm
ROFL. It's clear that all he is concerned about are the indictments against him. Also: his skin looks either over tanned or over made up, and his hair looks like Wolverine.
The new hawtness!
If I can’t commit crimes with impunity, what good is being President?
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:04 pm
by Mori Chu
Another Trump senior moment. He thinks Nikki Haley was in charge of security on 1/6. (He means to attack Nancy Pelosi here.) This is not a teleprompter problem.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:00 pm
by JeremyG
One year from today our country comes to an end.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:07 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:00 pm
One year from today our country comes to an end.
That's a pleasant thought.