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Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 10:25 pm
by AmareIsGod
Landry Shamet hath brought a plague upon every house he’s entered
If your team is a contender, stay far, far away from him
https://deadspin.com/landry-shamet-hath ... 1848992196
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 10:25 pm
by AmareIsGod
I knew he was ass from day 1.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 4:42 am
by Split T
Wow…how does Gobert have a lower assisted %? Just offensive boards?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 7:29 am
by Mori Chu
I don't know if I have ever seen Gobert score an unassisted FG.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 am
by Indy
Rudy gets +40% more Oboards than Ayton does. And he doesn't seem to pass out of them as much. Rudy also takes almost 40% less FGAs than Ayton.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:40 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 am
Rudy gets +40% more Oboards than Ayton does. And he doesn't seem to pass out of them as much. Rudy also takes almost 40% less FGAs than Ayton.
And how many more FTs a game in spite of that?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:53 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:40 am
Indy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 am
Rudy gets +40% more Oboards than Ayton does. And he doesn't seem to pass out of them as much. Rudy also takes almost 40% less FGAs than Ayton.
And how many more FTs a game in spite of that?
Rudy took almost 3 times as many FTA per game this season.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:34 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:53 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:40 am
Indy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 am
Rudy gets +40% more Oboards than Ayton does. And he doesn't seem to pass out of them as much. Rudy also takes almost 40% less FGAs than Ayton.
And how many more FTs a game in spite of that?
Rudy took almost 3 times as many FTA per game this season.
Wow. That's all I can say.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:59 am
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 4:42 am
Wow…how does Gobert have a lower assisted %? Just offensive boards?
And the Suns are supposed to have him create his own shots as a second option? How?!
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:17 am
by Indy
I think if you can match DA with a team that has a very good PG (or playmaking SG) and a very good PF that can create for himself and others, DA's value goes up. I am thinking FVV and Siakim with Ayton would be lethal. Or honestly Kyrie and KD in Brooklyn with Ayton. We just don't have that front court playmaker that really unlocks what DA can get you when your PG/SG is blitzed/trapped in the playoffs.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:22 am
by Split T
I was thinking about an Ayton for OG swap…but I’d need more from Toronto…a 1st or 2?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:23 am
by virtual9mm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:17 am
I think if you can match DA with a team that has a very good PG (or playmaking SG) and a very good PF that can create for himself and others, DA's value goes up. I am thinking FVV and Siakim with Ayton would be lethal. Or honestly Kyrie and KD in Brooklyn with Ayton. We just don't have that front court playmaker that really unlocks what DA can get you when your PG/SG is blitzed/trapped in the playoffs.
I don't remember Ayton being a particularly good fit with Saric but if your theory is correct, we should be trading Cam and expirings for LeBron.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:30 am
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:22 am
I was thinking about an Ayton for OG swap…but I’d need more from Toronto…a 1st or 2?
Yeah there is no way we can get Siakim out of them, but OG is really good. I think it would have to be a first at least. Probably a 1st and a younger guy.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 11:36 am
by Split T
OG has a nice contract…but I feel like he’s also in that Cam J/Mikal zone where he can do a little bit off the dribble but you can’t count on it. Fine if he’s the 3rd creator on the court, not great if he has to be the 1 or 2 option.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 11:39 am
by Shabazz
Split T wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:36 am
OG has a nice contract…but I feel like he’s also in that Cam J/Mikal zone where he can do a little bit off the dribble but you can’t count on it. Fine if he’s the 3rd creator on the court, not great if he has to be the 1 or 2 option.
Agreed. He's got a little more off the bounce juice than Mikal, but he's not a good rebounder. I think if Mikal/OG is our 3/4, we need a killer on the glass at the 5.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:07 pm
by Mori Chu
I'd be pretty disappointed if we shipped out Ayton and didn't get better than OG back.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm
by Split T
Ya OG isn’t enough, at least a pick or two would need to be included. Then we can at least use those to acquire another piece.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:34 pm
by AmareIsGod
OG Anunoby?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 1:00 pm
by Split T
Yes
There’s some DA stuff it appears in here, says Toronto is interested. Haven’t been able to listen though
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 1:45 pm
by specialsauce
BARF