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Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:26 am
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:19 am
It would really suck to have to trade our homegrown star because of one man's hubris. Let's just start with trading KD and see where it gets us. We can always look into Book trades a year or two from now.
Agreed. Already said it, but I'd call HOU about some combination of Amen and our picks for Durant.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:36 am
by The Bobster
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:19 am
It would really suck to have to trade our homegrown star because of one man's hubris. Let's just start with trading KD and see where it gets us. We can always look into Book trades a year or two from now.
Getting the ship righted is probably going to be painful since there's not much of a market for Beal. Their best bet is to hope for some financial flexibility in 2027 after Durant and Beal are off the books. Booker, Allen and O'Neale would still each have a year remaining on thier contracts if they're still on the roster.

Personally, I would look for the best deals for Durant and Booker, and do what I can to mov Beal, O'Neal, Allen and Nurkic and look to stockpile young players and picks, trying to avoid taking back any significant commitments beyond 2027.

Booker with be at least 32 or 33 before this team is back anywhere close to contention if they don't make any moves because they won't have the resources to make significant acquisitions (especially affordable players in the draft). To me no one on the team is untouchable, although there are a couple of players you would like to hold onto long-term (most noteably, Dunn).

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:38 am
by The Bobster
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:26 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:19 am
It would really suck to have to trade our homegrown star because of one man's hubris. Let's just start with trading KD and see where it gets us. We can always look into Book trades a year or two from now.
Agreed. Already said it, but I'd call HOU about some combination of Amen and our picks for Durant.
I don't think Booker's trade value is going to improve as he gets older though. And I don't think he's the top guy on a championship contender.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:03 pm
by ShelC
It's just very hard to bottom out and get everything right with picks and FA signings. Always sounds good in theory. We missed out on a decade in the 2010s trying that. Whiffing on high lotto picks, signing the wrong vets, trying to mesh 18-19 yr olds with 28-30 yr olds to compete while developing the young talent. It's extremely hard. With Book, you have the established star to put players around and who can still attract talent. Not to mention the type of player who can maintain the standard/professionalism needed for practice and games.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:06 pm
by Ring_Wanted
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:38 am
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:26 am
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:19 am
It would really suck to have to trade our homegrown star because of one man's hubris. Let's just start with trading KD and see where it gets us. We can always look into Book trades a year or two from now.
Agreed. Already said it, but I'd call HOU about some combination of Amen and our picks for Durant.
I don't think Booker's trade value is going to improve as he gets older though. And I don't think he's the top guy on a championship contender.
But it seems other stars want to play with Booker, so if we keep him we have a better chance of doing something significant until we regain full control of our draft. If you trade Booker there is still no clear path to a traditional rebuilding since different teams own our picks until 2030. If it was just HOU, then maybe you bite the bullet and go for it, but MEM/ORL and WAS have swaps for our 2026 and 2028 picks. We can sell Booker to HOU now to get our picks back, but 2026 would be the first real year of a tank yet we would not have out pick. 2027 would be fine, but if we still suck by 2028 (more than probably under this scenario) we also lose that pick. Really don't see it.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:07 pm
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:03 pm
It's just very hard to bottom out and get everything right with picks and FA signings. Always sounds good in theory. We missed out on a decade in the 2010s trying that. Whiffing on high lotto picks, signing the wrong vets, trying to mesh 18-19 yr olds with 28-30 yr olds to compete while developing the young talent. It's extremely hard. With Book, you have the established star to put players around and who can still attract talent. Not to mention the type of player who can maintain the standard/professionalism needed for practice and games.
Agreed.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:15 pm
by AmareIsGod
Houston Rockets Set Sights on Devin Booker in Blockbuster Trade Talks
Last updated
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The Houston Rockets are actively pursuing a trade for Devin Booker from the Phoenix Suns, aiming to elevate their status as NBA title contenders. Discussions have floated around a hefty trade package that could include Jalen Green, Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore, and multiple future first-round picks. While there's a buzz around this potential deal, the Suns' willingness to part with Booker remains uncertain, with some sources suggesting they might only consider such a move under extreme circumstances. This strategic interest in Booker underscores Houston's aggressive approach to significantly enhance their roster for the upcoming seasons.

Re: What should the Suns do?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:23 pm
by Ring_Wanted
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:15 pm
Houston Rockets Set Sights on Devin Booker in Blockbuster Trade Talks
Last updated
1 hour ago
The Houston Rockets are actively pursuing a trade for Devin Booker from the Phoenix Suns, aiming to elevate their status as NBA title contenders. Discussions have floated around a hefty trade package that could include Jalen Green, Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore, and multiple future first-round picks. While there's a buzz around this potential deal, the Suns' willingness to part with Booker remains uncertain, with some sources suggesting they might only consider such a move under extreme circumstances. This strategic interest in Booker underscores Houston's aggressive approach to significantly enhance their roster for the upcoming seasons.
haha of course HOU. By all means take the franchise player in his prime while not giving up your best young assets besides Sengun.