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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:44 am
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
He also sucks and thinks he's good like Dillon Brooks. Id rather eat glass.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:47 am
by ShelC
Didn't know Williams would be part of the deal. On paper, he's a good player and could be a good fit. I'd be willing to take a chance on him despite his shortcomings.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 am
by AmareIsGod
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:44 am
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
He also sucks and thinks he's good like Dillon Brooks. Id rather eat glass.
Richards sucks?
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
by TOO
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 am
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:44 am
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
He also sucks and thinks he's good like Dillon Brooks. Id rather eat glass.
Richards sucks?
Richards is fine, nothing especially great but no, Williams sucks out loud.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:12 am
by Cap
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:54 pm
Man...the trade rules really do suck hard...
Lots of interest in complaining about that. Not lots of interest in discussing how it could be improved.

Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:20 am
by Kryptonic
Cap wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:12 am
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:54 pm
Man...the trade rules really do suck hard...
Lots of interest in complaining about that. Not lots of interest in discussing how it could be improved.
Should probably start a thread.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:27 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:47 am
Didn't know Williams would be part of the deal. On paper, he's a good player and could be a good fit. I'd be willing to take a chance on him despite his shortcomings.
He’s just the contract that works perfectly with Richards…he also tore his acl a month ago, so you wouldn’t get him this year and you might lose part of next year too. He’s just salary filler
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:28 am
by Split T
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:44 am
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
He also sucks and thinks he's good like Dillon Brooks. Id rather eat glass.
Well luckily he’s hurt and can’t play anyways
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:32 am
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:28 am
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:44 am
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:33 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Because we’d be taking Grant Williams off their hands. He’s owed more than Nurk and is hurt
He also sucks and thinks he's good like Dillon Brooks. Id rather eat glass.
Well luckily he’s hurt and can’t play anyways
He'll be back next year. Barf.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:33 am
by Split T
Not if we waive and stretch him to get under the 2nd apron
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:34 am
by Mori Chu
I confess that I don't know much about Grant Williams. Used to be on the Celtics, right? Wasn't there a time when folks were high on his potential? What has led to his fall from grace (aside from injury)?
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:40 am
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:34 am
I confess that I don't know much about Grant Williams. Used to be on the Celtics, right? Wasn't there a time when folks were high on his potential? What has led to his fall from grace (aside from injury)?
He is Dillon Brooks but worse. Takes terrible shots, acts tough, thinks he's a star, flops like a fish, complains constantly. I hate him so much

Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:44 am
by Split T
He stood over KD last year(I think?) and Nurk got into it with him. He’s a PJ Tucker mixed with the dirty antics of Dillon Brooks.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:59 am
by Superbone
Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:19 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:14 am
Not sure why the Hornets would take Nurk and some 2nd for Richards but I wouldn't complain about it. And while he'd obviously help, we shouldn't overvalue him or think he'll make us a contender. He's a backup who other teams' fans pine away for but if you watch him or read what the Hornets' fans say about him, you get why he's a backup and why he's probably available. Bad hands, leaves his feet too much, out of position and gets in foul trouble.
Absolutely, nobody is saying he's a savior. But adding athleticism and removing Nurkic is an obvious improvement. For a second or two, I'd be mre than happy.
Do it!
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:02 am
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:40 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:34 am
I confess that I don't know much about Grant Williams. Used to be on the Celtics, right? Wasn't there a time when folks were high on his potential? What has led to his fall from grace (aside from injury)?
He is Dillon Brooks but worse. Takes terrible shots, acts tough, thinks he's a star, flops like a fish, complains constantly.
I hate him so much
I couldn't tell.

I just remember him from his Celtics day when he impressed in the playoffs. But I'll take your word for it. Sounds like he's not playing for a year and a half anyway. I wouldn't sweat it as the deal is mostly about Richards.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:09 am
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:44 am
He stood over KD last year(I think?) and Nurk got into it with him. He’s a PJ Tucker mixed with the dirty antics of Dillon Brooks.
This is a pretty good description.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:11 am
by ShelC
Used to be on the Cs and was thought to be a part of their core as a widebody 3/4 shooter. Supposedly fell out of favor in the lockerroom and was signed and traded to the Mavs, who then dealt him to Charlotte in the middle of his first year there. Get the feeling he thinks he's better than he is and his weight's been a concern.
https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/e ... mavs-trade
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:12 am
by Superbone
We definitely don't need a yapper (I don't think.)
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:13 am
by Split T
He does like to do a lot of the stuff you want someone to do next to KD…but he’d just be an afterthought to me. Waive and stretch candidate or just a salary to try and trade.