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Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:20 am
by O_Gardino
Hopefully he can play within the system. Then again, we don't know what Ott's system is going to look like.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:05 pm
by Superbone
wpmiller42 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:51 am
Honestly, I'm optimistic about Jalen Green. Athletic, runs the floor well, his defense has improved since he got to the league, seems like a good teammate. I agree his shot selection could be questionable at times, but even that I see improving over his career. I think this could be the right situation and combined with some continued maturation and I think we might all love him.
Yep, and I'm hoping Ott's strength of player relations is going to be an ideal pairing to help take him to another level.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:10 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:12 am
wpmiller42 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:51 am
Honestly, I'm optimistic about Jalen Green. Athletic, runs the floor well, his defense has improved since he got to the league, seems like a good teammate. I agree his shot selection could be questionable at times, but even that I see improving over his career. I think this could be the right situation and combined with some continued maturation and I think we might all love him.
I don't dislike Green. I just don't think he makes any sense in the same backcourt as Devin Booker. And I don't want to trade Devin Booker. It's basically the Brad Beal problem all over again, though arguably Green will be an even worse fit because he plays worse defense and has a lower BBIQ. Green will probably stay healthier than Beal, but otherwise I just don't think he works well next to Book.

I don't want to be pessimistic; I just really wish we would find another team for Green and get some other asset for him that fits our roster better. A real distributing/defensive PG or a starting veteran PF would be great. I would even take an offense-only PG if he passed the ball well, such as Trae Young. Trae/Book would give us a horrendous perimeter defense, but I still think the fit would be better than with Green. And maybe we could just run and outscore teams and try to get wins that way. Smells to me like ATL is about ready to give up on the Trae Young era, so I think he'll be available soon.
I just think we should wait and see before making the determination that it won't work. Obviously, Ott and the Suns have some plans for how it might work. Let's see. If it doesn't work out, they can always trade him later. He's young still.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:20 pm
by Superbone
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:20 am
Hopefully he can play within the system. Then again, we don't know what Ott's system is going to look like.
I am looking forward to seeing it! Hopefully the Summer Suns will give us an idea.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:45 pm
by Split T
So we know this isn’t happening, but humor me for a sec…

If we trade Nick Richards for Bronny James,
Bradley Beal for LeBron James, and
send Royce into someone’s cap space or exception…

We would be within 2 million of getting out of the 2nd apron. We could sign CP3 to a minimum and run this roster:

Booker/Green/Brooks/LeBron/Williams
CP3/Allen/Dunn/NHD/Maluach
Gillespie/Bronny/Brea/Fleming/Oso

Then either stay in the 2nd apron if it’s working, or make a move like trading Green for someone a couple million dollars cheaper.

Who’s in?

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:28 pm
by Mori Chu
You're supposed to pass after the first two puffs.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:00 pm
by Superbone
Sources: Phoenix Suns discussing possible Bradley Beal buyout
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 464670007/
The Phoenix Suns have been discussing a possible buyout for guard Bradley Beal, league sources have informed The Arizona Republic.

Beal has two years left on his contract totaling $110 million. A buyout would make Beal a free agent. Teams can officially begin signing players to contracts July 6.

The three-time All-Star guard is on a five-year deal for $251 million, which includes a no-trade clause, that he signed with the Washington Wizards.

He’d no longer have a no-trade clause with a buyout because the contract would be voided.

The Suns have a policy of declining to comment on the contracts of players. Suns general manager Brian Gregory passed on addressing a question about Kevin Durant’s future with the team during Jordan Ott’s introductory news conference as head coach last month.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:16 pm
by Split T


Methinks it’s happening today

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:48 pm
by specialsauce
So dumb.

I do not understand the strategy at all. If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they do it right as free agency began so they could utilize the savings? What is the point now? Just keep him and try to salvage his value or keep him home until he decides that he's willing to be traded anywhere.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:34 pm
by 3TheHardaway
There's whispers that the Lakers would be interested if he's bought out. To hell with that. If they want him, and aren't giving into Lebron's demands, they can always...trade for him.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:40 pm
by The Bobster
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:48 pm
So dumb.

I do not understand the strategy at all. If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they do it right as free agency began so they could utilize the savings? What is the point now? Just keep him and try to salvage his value or keep him home until he decides that he's willing to be traded anywhere.
The main reason for doing it is getting out of the secopnd apron and saving a ton of penalty for being a repeater (I have heard it will save them $165 million). So basically keeping Beal next year will cost them about $220 million.

Plus they'll be able to use the mid-level exception and have more flexibility in trades.

Now, how stupid was that trade again??

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:51 pm
by Superbone
Book needs to work on his top of the key three.


Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:00 pm
by The Bobster
3TheHardaway wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:34 pm
There's whispers that the Lakers would be interested if he's bought out. To hell with that. If they want him, and aren't giving into Lebron's demands, they can always...trade for him.
I don;t see him going somewhere to be a third or fourth option. There will probably be teams out there that need scoring help worse than that and will give him more minutes and oportunities.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:04 pm
by AmareIsGod
The Bobster wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:00 pm
3TheHardaway wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:34 pm
There's whispers that the Lakers would be interested if he's bought out. To hell with that. If they want him, and aren't giving into Lebron's demands, they can always...trade for him.
I don;t see him going somewhere to be a third or fourth option. There will probably be teams out there that need scoring help worse than that and will give him more minutes and oportunities.
Hard to be 1st or 2nd option when you miss 40+ games a season.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:12 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Seems like a bad idea to me.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:30 pm
by Superbone

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:32 pm
by specialsauce
The Bobster wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:40 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:48 pm
So dumb.

I do not understand the strategy at all. If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they do it right as free agency began so they could utilize the savings? What is the point now? Just keep him and try to salvage his value or keep him home until he decides that he's willing to be traded anywhere.
The main reason for doing it is getting out of the secopnd apron and saving a ton of penalty for being a repeater (I have heard it will save them $165 million). So basically keeping Beal next year will cost them about $220 million.

Plus they'll be able to use the mid-level exception and have more flexibility in trades.

Now, how stupid was that trade again??
I get that but they should've negotiated this a month ago so they could use the MLE

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:33 pm
by The Bobster
It's "town drunk syndrome." Back in the old Westerns it was a popular trope to have the good woman who though they could set the town drunk or the onery gunfighter toward the straight and narrow.

There are plenty of coaches out there who think they're smart enough to get more out of a player, that they're the one who will know how to use him right despit him having had multiple stops during their career. It's why there are still give chances to Ben Simmons or DeAndre Ayton, figuring that a leopard can change its spots.

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm
by specialsauce
KEEP your eyes out for a certain former Suns guard with a very treadmill mentality. I'm not saying it will happen but it might happen or not, this stuff takes time yall but I'm telling you and not telling you at the same time

Re: 2025 Suns Offeason News

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:35 pm
by The Bobster
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:32 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:40 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:48 pm
So dumb.

I do not understand the strategy at all. If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they do it right as free agency began so they could utilize the savings? What is the point now? Just keep him and try to salvage his value or keep him home until he decides that he's willing to be traded anywhere.
The main reason for doing it is getting out of the secopnd apron and saving a ton of penalty for being a repeater (I have heard it will save them $165 million). So basically keeping Beal next year will cost them about $220 million.

Plus they'll be able to use the mid-level exception and have more flexibility in trades.

Now, how stupid was that trade again??
I get that but they should've negotiated this a month ago so they could use the MLE
They may have broached the subject with Beal before, we don't know. I think their preference was to find a trade, but there obviously isn't a market for him with that contract.