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specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm

KEEP your eyes out for a certain former Suns guard with a very treadmill mentality. I'm not saying it will happen but it might happen or not, this stuff takes time yall but I'm telling you and not telling you at the same time

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:35 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:32 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:40 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:48 pm

So dumb.

I do not understand the strategy at all. If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they do it right as free agency began so they could utilize the savings? What is the point now? Just keep him and try to salvage his value or keep him home until he decides that he's willing to be traded anywhere.

The main reason for doing it is getting out of the secopnd apron and saving a ton of penalty for being a repeater (I have heard it will save them $165 million). So basically keeping Beal next year will cost them about $220 million.

Plus they'll be able to use the mid-level exception and have more flexibility in trades.

Now, how stupid was that trade again??

I get that but they should've negotiated this a month ago so they could use the MLE

They may have broached the subject with Beal before, we don't know. I think their preference was to find a trade, but there obviously isn't a market for him with that contract.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:36 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm

KEEP your eyes out for a certain former Suns guard with a very treadmill mentality. I'm not saying it will happen but it might happen or not, this stuff takes time yall but I'm telling you and not telling you at the same time

I’m trying to figure out what a treadmill mentality is and who that would apply to.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:24 pm

I think it’s clear we never had any intention of using the exceptions we might gain access to if we waive and stretch Beal…the move was simply to save money. I read the waive and stretch(after a 14m buyout) saves Ishbia 230 million in salary and luxury tax next year.

One other thought…I believe July 6th is when teams can officially make the signings that have been announced…not sure if that’s midnight between July 5th and 6th or between July 6th and 7th, but that could be another deadline. Meaning we need to waive Beal 48hours before the moratorium period lifts so he can sign as soon as free agency actually opens. Perhaps he’s been looking for a landing spot, but those teams won’t keep waiting once the signings actually become official. Anyways just a thought…that would mean The we could either see the waive and stretch happen by midnight ET tonight or tomorrow(depending on when the moratorium officially lifts).

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:19 pm

It’s a bit concerning that we are more than 3 days into free agency and the Suns have not signed a single NBA free agent.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:27 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:24 pm

I think it’s clear we never had any intention of using the exceptions we might gain access to if we waive and stretch Beal…the move was simply to save money. I read the waive and stretch(after a 14m buyout) saves Ishbia 230 million in salary and luxury tax next year.

One other thought…I believe July 6th is when teams can officially make the signings that have been announced…not sure if that’s midnight between July 5th and 6th or between July 6th and 7th, but that could be another deadline. Meaning we need to waive Beal 48hours before the moratorium period lifts so he can sign as soon as free agency actually opens. Perhaps he’s been looking for a landing spot, but those teams won’t keep waiting once the signings actually become official. Anyways just a thought…that would mean The we could either see the waive and stretch happen by midnight ET tonight or tomorrow(depending on when the moratorium officially lifts).

It ends at 9 am Sunday, Phoenix time.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:53 pm

Just tell Brad to stay home for the year if he's not going to waive his NTC to a team willing to trade for him.

Revisit it next offseason when he's an expiring

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:17 pm

Ok here’s my pretty ridiculous theory…
If we can get the Bradley Beal buyout down to 94 million(so he gives up just over 16m) then we swap Richards for a minimum contract, we could then aggregate Grayson and Royce together for Kyle Kuzma and finish under the 2nd apron without stretching Beal.

I’m not 100% certain Milwaukee can make that trade, but if my very rough math and the Spotrac numbers are right, I think it does work for them.

I don’t love Kuzma, but I love avoiding the stretch and I do think it makes some positional sense for both teams.