Suns Fact or Fiction

[Split T]

Thought I'd make a few statements on the team and individual players and we can discuss whether they will happen or not. Feel free to expound on the answers and/or create additional statements.

1. The Phoenix Suns will win 30 games or more this year.
2. Devin Booker will average 25 points a game.
3. Devin Booker will average 5 assists a game.
4. Devin Booker will make the all-star team or one of the all-NBA teams.
5. Eric Bledsoe will have no extended(more than 10 games) absence due to injury.
6. Eric Bledsoe will be traded at some point before the trade deadline.
7. Eric Bledsoe will receive multiple votes for the all-NBA teams.
8. Josh Jackson will start on opening night.
9. TJ Warren will start on opening night.
10. Marquese Chriss will start on opening night.
11. Josh Jackson will win ROY.
12. Josh Jackson will lead the Suns in one of the 5 major statistical categories.(pts, reb, ast, stl, blk) Which one?
13. TJ Warren will average 15 points per game.
14. Someone off the bench (TJ Warren, Alan Williams, Tyler Ulis) will get multiple 6th man of year votes.
15. Marquese Chriss matches his post all star splits. (13 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 36% 3PT)
16. Marquese Chriss gets 12 or more technical fouls.
17. Dragan Bender will average 20 minutes per game.
18. Dragan Bender will shoot 33% from 3.
19. Tyler Ulis averages 4 assists a game.
20. Davon Reed is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
21. Derrick Jones Jr is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
22. Derrick Jones Jr wins the Dunk Contest.
23. Alan Williams has 15 Double-Doubles.
24. The Suns make an in-season trade.
25. A Suns player records a triple double. Scores 50 in a game.
26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.
27. Alex Len plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey. If so, Qualifying offer? We match? We re-sign to multi year deal?
28. Suns end up with a top 3 draft pick in 2018.
29. Suns make the playoffs.
30. Suns win the championship.

[O_Gardino]

Thought I'd make a few statements...

Fiction!

[Split T]

1. The Phoenix Suns will win 30 games or more this year.
Fiction, I will go with 28
2. Devin Booker will average 25 points a game.
Fiction. I think his scoring number will stay about the same, 22-23, but efficiency improves.
3. Devin Booker will average 5 assists a game.
Fiction. I'll say 4.5.
4. Devin Booker will make the all-star team or one of the all-NBA teams.
Fiction. West is too loaded.
5. Eric Bledsoe will have no extended(more than 10 games) absence due to injury.
Fact. I think Bledsoe will put his injury issues behind him.
6. Eric Bledsoe will be traded at some point before the trade deadline.
Fiction. McD loves him too much and there won't be a great deal available.
7. Eric Bledsoe will receive multiple votes for the all-NBA teams.
Fiction. Too many talented guards.
8. Josh Jackson will start on opening night.
9. TJ Warren will start on opening night.
10. Marquese Chriss will start on opening night.
For these 3 I'll go Fact, Fiction, Fact. Opening night we go Bled/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Chandler
11. Josh Jackson will win ROY.
Fiction. I think he finishes top 3 though.
12. Josh Jackson will lead the Suns in one of the 5 major statistical categories.(pts, reb, ast, stl, blk) Which one?
Fact. Rebounds are a good possibility if he plays 30 minutes, but I'll go with steals as the most likely.
13. TJ Warren will average 15 points per game.
Fiction. Will come off bench and put up 12-14.
14. Someone off the bench (TJ Warren, Alan Williams, Tyler Ulis) will get multiple 6th man of year votes.
Fiction. These 3 will develop great chemistry, but suns not relevant enough to get them considered.
15. Marquese Chriss matches his post all star splits. (13 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 36% 3PT)
Fiction. He'll come close though. 12/6 and .48/.35
16. Marquese Chriss gets 12 or more technical fouls.
Fact.
17. Dragan Bender will average 20 minutes per game.
Fact. Time to unleash the Dragan.
18. Dragan Bender will shoot 33% from 3.
Fact.
19. Tyler Ulis averages 4 assists a game.
Fiction. Doesn't get the minutes.
20. Davon Reed is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fact. Will get 10-15 minutes a night by January.
21. Derrick Jones Jr is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fiction.
22. Derrick Jones Jr wins the Dunk Contest.
Fact.
23. Alan Williams has 15 Double-Doubles.
Fact.
24. The Suns make an in-season trade.
Fact. We move a vet.
25. A Suns player records a triple double. Scores 50 in a game.
Fact/Fact. Bledsoe is most likely for the first, Booker for the 2nd
26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.
Fiction. Don't know how, but he'll be gone before training camp.
27. Alex Len plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey. If so, Qualifying offer? We match? We re-sign to multi year deal?
Fact. I think he comes back on the QO
28. Suns end up with a top 3 draft pick in 2018.
Fiction. I'm saying 5-7 range.
29. Suns make the playoffs.
Fiction. Maybe 2019
30. Suns win the championship.
Fiction. Shooting for 2021!

[TOO]

Thought I'd make a few statements...

Fiction!

Fact!

[The Bobster]

1. The Phoenix Suns will win 30 games or more this year.
Fiction, I am guessing 25-29 wins
2. Devin Booker will average 25 points a game.
Fact.
3. Devin Booker will average 5 assists a game.
Fiction.
4. Devin Booker will make the all-star team or one of the all-NBA teams.
Fiction.
5. Eric Bledsoe will have no extended(more than 10 games) absence due to injury.
Fiction.
6. Eric Bledsoe will be traded at some point before the trade deadline.
Fact, unless he suffers a serious injury.
7. Eric Bledsoe will receive multiple votes for the all-NBA teams.
Fiction.
8. Josh Jackson will start on opening night.
Fact.
9. TJ Warren will start on opening night.
Fiction. (I think Jackson will beat him out for the starting job)
10. Marquese Chriss will start on opening night.
Fact.
11. Josh Jackson will win ROY.
Fiction.
12. Josh Jackson will lead the Suns in one of the 5 major statistical categories.(pts, reb, ast, stl, blk) Which one?
Steals.
13. TJ Warren will average 15 points per game.
Fiction. He may not get enough minutes.
14. Someone off the bench (TJ Warren, Alan Williams, Tyler Ulis) will get multiple 6th man of year votes.
Warren or Jackson depending on who doesn't start.
15. Marquese Chriss matches his post all star splits. (13 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 36% 3PT)
Fiction.
16. Marquese Chriss gets 12 or more technical fouls.
Fact.
17. Dragan Bender will average 20 minutes per game.
Fact.
18. Dragan Bender will shoot 33% from 3.
Fact.
19. Tyler Ulis averages 4 assists a game.
Fact.
20. Davon Reed is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fiction. Not unless Bledsoe and Knight are both gone.
21. Derrick Jones Jr is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fiction.
22. Derrick Jones Jr wins the Dunk Contest.
Fact.
23. Alan Williams has 15 Double-Doubles.
Fact.
24. The Suns make an in-season trade.
Fact. Easiest prediction so far!
25. A Suns player records a triple double. Scores 50 in a game.
Fact (maybe Bledsoe, maybe Jackson), Fiction.
26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.
Fiction, he will either play more than that or less.
27. Alex Len plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey. If so, Qualifying offer? We match? We re-sign to multi year deal?
Fiction, he will play more.
28. Suns end up with a top 3 draft pick in 2018.
Fiction. It's just to difficult to guess how the ping pong balls will bounce.
29. Suns make the playoffs.
Fiction.
30. Suns win the championship.
Fantasy.

[Superbone]

1. The Phoenix Suns will win 30 games or more this year.
Fiction.
2. Devin Booker will average 25 points a game.
Fiction. Closer to 24.
3. Devin Booker will average 5 assists a game.
Fiction. More like 3-4.
4. Devin Booker will make the all-star team or one of the all-NBA teams.
Fiction.
5. Eric Bledsoe will have no extended(more than 10 games) absence due to injury.
Fact.
6. Eric Bledsoe will be traded at some point before the trade deadline.
Fiction.
7. Eric Bledsoe will receive multiple votes for the all-NBA teams.
Fiction.
8. Josh Jackson will start on opening night.
Fact.
9. TJ Warren will start on opening night.
Fiction.
10. Marquese Chriss will start on opening night.
Fact.
11. Josh Jackson will win ROY.
Fact.
12. Josh Jackson will lead the Suns in one of the 5 major statistical categories.(pts, reb, ast, stl, blk) Which one?
Yes. Steals.
13. TJ Warren will average 15 points per game.
Fiction.
14. Someone off the bench (TJ Warren, Alan Williams, Tyler Ulis) will get multiple 6th man of year votes.
Fact. Multiple being more than one.
15. Marquese Chriss matches his post all star splits. (13 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 36% 3PT)
Fiction.
16. Marquese Chriss gets 12 or more technical fouls.
Easily.
17. Dragan Bender will average 20 minutes per game.
Fact.
18. Dragan Bender will shoot 33% from 3.
The odds of him shooting exactly 33% are nil. The fact is that he'll shoot better than 33%.
19. Tyler Ulis averages 4 assists a game.
Fact.
20. Davon Reed is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fact.
21. Derrick Jones Jr is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?
Fiction.
22. Derrick Jones Jr wins the Dunk Contest.
Fact.
23. Alan Williams has 15 Double-Doubles.
Fact.
24. The Suns make an in-season trade.
Fact.
25. A Suns player records a triple double. Scores 50 in a game.
Fiction/Fact (Booker will score at least 50 in a game.)
26. Brandon Knight plays for the Suns this year.
Fiction.
27. Alex Len plays for the Suns this year. If so, Qualifying offer? We match? We re-sign to multi year deal?
Fact. Qualifying offer.
28. Suns end up with a top 3 draft pick in 2018.
Fact. We finally get the number one overall pick in the 50th year of our franchise!
29. Suns make the playoffs.
Fiction.
30. Suns win the championship.
Fact. In my lifetime. Or else.

[Split T]

26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.
Fiction, he will either play more than that or less.

I should have said at least 1 minute

[Superbone]

26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.
Fiction, he will either play more than that or less.

I should have said at least 1 minute

Yep, I fixed it in my set of questions. For Len too.

[Ring_Wanted]

Great thread!

1. The Phoenix Suns will win 30 games or more this year.- FICTION.

2. Devin Booker will average 25 points a game.- FICTION.

3. Devin Booker will average 5 assists a game.- FICTION.

4. Devin Booker will make the all-star team or one of the all-NBA teams.- FICTION.

5. Eric Bledsoe will have no extended(more than 10 games) absence due to injury.- FACT-

6. Eric Bledsoe will be traded at some point before the trade deadline.- FACT-

7. Eric Bledsoe will receive multiple votes for the all-NBA teams.- FICTION.

8. Josh Jackson will start on opening night.- FACT.

9. TJ Warren will start on opening night.- FICTION.

10. Marquese Chriss will start on opening night.- FACT.

11. Josh Jackson will win ROY.- FICTION.

12. Josh Jackson will lead the Suns in one of the 5 major statistical categories.(pts, reb, ast, stl, blk) Which one?.- FACT (steals).

13. TJ Warren will average 15 points per game.- FACT.

14. Someone off the bench (TJ Warren, Alan Williams, Tyler Ulis) will get multiple 6th man of year votes.- FACT.

15. Marquese Chriss matches his post all star splits. (13 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 36% 3PT).- FICTION.

16. Marquese Chriss gets 12 or more technical fouls.- FACT.

17. Dragan Bender will average 20 minutes per game.- FACT.

18. Dragan Bender will shoot 33% from 3.- FACT.

19. Tyler Ulis averages 4 assists a game.- FACT.

20. Davon Reed is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?.- FACT.

21. Derrick Jones Jr is part of the regular rotation before the all-star break?.- FICTION.

22. Derrick Jones Jr wins the Dunk Contest.- FICTION.

23. Alan Williams has 15 Double-Doubles.- FACT.

24. The Suns make an in-season trade.- FACT.

25. A Suns player records a triple double. Scores 50 in a game.- FACT on both.

26. Brandon Knight plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey.- FICTION.

27. Alex Len plays 1 minute in a Suns jersey. If so, Qualifying offer? We match? We re-sign to multi year deal?.- FACT, re-sign on the cheap.

28. Suns end up with a top 3 draft pick in 2018.- FACT.

29. Suns make the playoffs.- FICTION.

30. Suns win the championship.- FACT (in 2026)

[Superbone]

Well, we all nailed question 26. We didn't expect it to get answered so quickly.

[carey]

Well, we all nailed question 26. We didn't expect it to get answered so quickly.

[Ring_Wanted]

'Bone with no regard for human life.

[Split T]

What's everyone's best case scenario over the next couple years?

I'll put out a few options:

Scenario 1

Step 1: 3 team trade with bled leaving, Ntilikina and NY 1st coming here.
Step 2: Lots of progress from youth, but we lose a lot of games and get a top 3 pick.
Step 3: Pelicans struggle and AD wants out
Step 4: We offer our top 3 pick, NY 1st, and Miami 1st along with Chriss for AD

Ntilikina/Booker/Jackson/Bender/AD with
Ulis/Reed/Jones Jr/Warren/Williams off the bench

*Replace AD with Antetekounmpo and I'd love it even more, but I think that's less likely.

Scenario 2:

Step 1: We keep Bledsoe
Step 2: We sign Cousins as a free agent next off season

Bled/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Cousins with
Ulis/Reed/Warren/Bender/Williams off the bench.

Scenario 3

Step 1: We trade bled/Chriss/Miami 1st for Kyrie/Frye
Step 2: Progress for youth, we improve, our pick lands 7-10
Step 3: Draft Wendell Carter

Kyrie/Booker/Jackson/Bender/Carter with
Ulis/Reed/Jones Jr/Warren/Williams off the bench

Scenario 4

Step 1: We trade Bledsoe for a young prospect and a pick (I'll go with Ntilikina for now)
Step 2: Lose a lot of games and let the young guys play.
Step 3: Land the #1 pick, or trade for it with our extra picks
Step 4: Draft Marvin Bagley

Ntilikina/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Bagley with
Ulis/Reed/Warren/Bender/Williams off the bench.

What scenario do you guys like best?
Would love to hear other options from everyone as well.

[Ring_Wanted]

I don't want to think about scenarios, I am mad about the new jerseys. The more I see them the more I dislike them. Thinking about going on strike for Suns related things for a while...

Still gotta tank at least one more season, though.

[Indy]

I don't want to think about scenarios, I am mad about the new jerseys. The more I see them the more I dislike them. Thinking about going on strike for Suns related things for a while...

Still gotta tank at least one more season, though.

The jerseys bother you to the point where you need to take a break?

[carey]

I don't want to think about scenarios, I am mad about the new jerseys. The more I see them the more I dislike them. Thinking about going on strike for Suns related things for a while...

Still gotta tank at least one more season, though.

The jerseys bother you to the point where you need to take a break?

I mean they're not good. I'll watch still tho.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

I don't want to think about scenarios, I am mad about the new jerseys. The more I see them the more I dislike them. Thinking about going on strike for Suns related things for a while...

Still gotta tank at least one more season, though.

Wow, that bad?

On the other hand, offseason is the time of the year when you would see the least of this. Once the season starts, everyn ote would portrait players on the new uniforms, you might want to get used to them one day a the time.

I like the colors palette so much better than the recent ones, that design even if not groundbreaking, is not a problem to me. Nitpicking the subject, I would swap the white accents for black ones in the purple uniforms, specially in the shorts. The white ones are actually the first I would consider to buy in a long time, I usually dig more the purples, even the purpleish, always hated the grey ones, and felt too "loud" the orange. I also liked the sweater in the preview commercials.

Hope you find peace about this RW and stay, it's always a joy to read your takes.

[Ring_Wanted]

haha don't worry, I am just overreacting. I am going for vacation until the last week of August so I should be ok when I get back (really hate the kits though, the only positive I see is indeed the purple color).

[TOO]

New Suns unis are a SIGNIFICANT upgrade.

Fact.

[The Bobster]

Would the uniform concept in this thread have made everyone happy? -

http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/112 ... ba/?page=1