Around the League: 2018 Offseason

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JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?

Because he’s an elite talent at a position of need

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Split T wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?

Because he’s an elite talent at a position of need
Coming back from achilles surgery. How many players recover from than fully? I am not sure any have.

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Dominique Wilkins did. Cousins is younger than most people who've had the injury.

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Cap wrote:Is there any way we could clear enough cap room to make a run at Cousins? Would he be worth what it would cost? Doncic-Booker-Jackson-Bender-Cousins would be really impressive at four positions.
Yes, we have picks that we could package with Chandler, Knight or Dudley that would help us clear enough to offer a max deal. #16 this year and the MIL pick. Plus all our own picks. I would be hesitant of offering Cousins a max deal but I do trust our medical guys if they sign off on him. The thing we have to ask is if we think Cousins can play with Ayton as it seems to be a sure thing that we're selecting him at this point. He shoots 36% from 3 on 6 attempts per game. Here's Cousins shot chart: http://nbasavant.com/player.php?player_id=202326 - Notice he took nearly as many 3's on the wing as he attempted shots at the basket with very little in between.
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Zero interest in cousins if we take Ayton. They are both 5's for sure.

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JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?
Someone to hang out with while our parents talk?
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Split T wrote:Zero interest in cousins if we take Ayton. They are both 5's for sure.
He looked really good with AD.
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O_Gardino wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?
Someone to hang out with while our parents talk?
9/10! :lol:
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JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?
If we draft Doncic, we need a center, and a Cousins is one of the best.

If we draft Ayton, never mind.

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carey wrote:
Split T wrote:Zero interest in cousins if we take Ayton. They are both 5's for sure.
He looked really good with AD.
That's because AD is a freak. AD is elite at the 4 and the 5...interesting too though that NO went on a run when they moved AD to the 5.

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Split T wrote:
carey wrote:
Split T wrote:Zero interest in cousins if we take Ayton. They are both 5's for sure.
He looked really good with AD.
That's because AD is a freak. AD is elite at the 4 and the 5...interesting too though that NO went on a run when they moved AD to the 5.
In part because Cousins doesn't defend, and in part because most of the good stuff Cousins does is redundant with AD. With AD at center, you've still got your unicorn in the middle, but now there is room for the shooters on the perimeter and room for Rondo and Jrue to drive. Cousins might have a bigger impact ona team where he is the only true big, like Chicago.
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https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/996870371931508739

Promises are so funny to me, especially this early. Doesn't the promising team want to see who is on the board? If they've found what they think is a steal, why would the player shut down workouts? Wouldn't he want to move higher in the draft?

I guess it can just be a scenario where the player and the team are perfect fits, but just seems risky.

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JCSunsfan wrote:
Split T wrote:
JCSunsfan wrote:And why do we want Cousins?

Because he’s an elite talent at a position of need
Coming back from achilles surgery. How many players recover from than fully? I am not sure any have.
The stats are NOT good. Besides. 90% chance we are drafting Ayton. JMO.

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/996891204842336256

I think Bud will get a lot more out of the Giannis bucks than Kidd did.

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Split T wrote:I think Bud will get a lot more out of the Giannis bucks than Kidd did.
There goes our draft pick.
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Superbone wrote:
Split T wrote:I think Bud will get a lot more out of the Giannis bucks than Kidd did.
There goes our draft pick.
I don’t think anybody was expecting the Bucks to get worse. This was the year to get that pick, but we lost the coin flip.

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Cap wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Split T wrote:I think Bud will get a lot more out of the Giannis bucks than Kidd did.
There goes our draft pick.
I don’t think anybody was expecting the Bucks to get worse. This was the year to get that pick, but we lost the coin flip.
I agree and I've been saying the same thing. That #1 pick sure makes it a lot easier to deal with though, doesn't it?
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Split T wrote:Would Washington do Porter for cousins? That would be great for New Orleans.
I get Porter fills a huge hole New Orleans has at the 3, but his contract stinks. That's a lot of money to invest in a role player.
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Cap wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Split T wrote:I think Bud will get a lot more out of the Giannis bucks than Kidd did.
There goes our draft pick.
I don’t think anybody was expecting the Bucks to get worse. This was the year to get that pick, but we lost the coin flip.
I've been saying that the Bucks might not improve. They have needs up and down the roster, and have not been managed well. There's plenty of room for error, and a history of making mistakes.

Bud is a heck of a coach, and now that they have him I do expect them to be a bit better. But they still have the draft, Jabari Parker, free agency, and player development to handle. Maybe they don't get a lot better.
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INFORMER wrote:
Split T wrote:Would Washington do Porter for cousins? That would be great for New Orleans.
I get Porter fills a huge hole New Orleans has at the 3, but his contract stinks. That's a lot of money to invest in a role player.
New Orleans isn't getting cap space anytime soon anyways. Porter has good size, plays defense and is a great catch and shoot guy. He's overpaid, but he's a great fit.

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