Suns News: Week 14 (1/19 - 1/25)

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Split T wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:48 pm
I think there was a time he was more of a real account, but the last couple years he turned into a troll. He is funny at times.

As for Booker…we will see. Biggest thing is gonna be the location of the sprain. If it got into the lower shin/high ankle…it could be 4-6 weeks. Of course depends on the severity as well. If it was lower in the ankle, I wouldn’t expect more than 2-3 weeks.


Does kind of look like he’s grabbing high on his foot…. Hopefully it’s just some bruising that will subside quickly.

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Kryptonic wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 5:12 pm
Split T wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:48 pm
I think there was a time he was more of a real account, but the last couple years he turned into a troll. He is funny at times.

As for Booker…we will see. Biggest thing is gonna be the location of the sprain. If it got into the lower shin/high ankle…it could be 4-6 weeks. Of course depends on the severity as well. If it was lower in the ankle, I wouldn’t expect more than 2-3 weeks.


Does kind of look like he’s grabbing high on his foot…. Hopefully it’s just some bruising that will subside quickly.
OK, who is copying who now, buddy?

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So you're saying there's a chance?

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Well they DID say that Green was held out of the rest of the last game as a precaution.

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Superbone wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 5:51 pm
Kryptonic wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 5:12 pm
Split T wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:48 pm
I think there was a time he was more of a real account, but the last couple years he turned into a troll. He is funny at times.

As for Booker…we will see. Biggest thing is gonna be the location of the sprain. If it got into the lower shin/high ankle…it could be 4-6 weeks. Of course depends on the severity as well. If it was lower in the ankle, I wouldn’t expect more than 2-3 weeks.


Does kind of look like he’s grabbing high on his foot…. Hopefully it’s just some bruising that will subside quickly.
OK, who is copying who now, buddy?

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This is a surprise
If Book misses less than 2weeks that would be great

And.....
How bout them Book 2s if he's back so quick smh :oops:
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bajanguy008 wrote:
Sun Jan 25, 2026 3:26 pm
This is a surprise
If Book misses less than 2weeks that would be great

And.....
How bout them Book 2s if he's back so quick smh :oops:
Him not watching where he's going has nothing to do with his Book 2s. They're not Teslas. ;)
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Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:15 pm
bajanguy008 wrote:
Sun Jan 25, 2026 3:26 pm
This is a surprise
If Book misses less than 2weeks that would be great

And.....
How bout them Book 2s if he's back so quick smh :oops:
Him not watching where he's going has nothing to do with his Book 2s. They're not Teslas. ;)
He doesn’t watch out he’s going to be wearing the Anthony Davis boot.

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A loss in the gleague but stats below:

Koby Brea
• Minutes: 34:31
• Points: 8
• Rebounds: 5
• Assists: 0
• 3-PT: 2-9
• Field Goals: 3-14
• Blocks/Steals: 0/1.

🔹 Rasheer Fleming
• Minutes: 31:04
• Points: 15
• Rebounds: 8
• Assists: 0
• 3-PT: 2-5
• Blocks: 2
• Steals: 3

🔹 Khaman Maluach
• Minutes: 29:34
• Points: 10
• Rebounds: 15 (13 defensive)
• Assists: 1
• 3-PT: 1-3
• Blocks: 3

Brea’s stats haven’t been great lately.
Had some big games early in the season but not with great %s. Seems to have gotten worse lately. However I don’t know exactly what the development method has been. I assume at nba level he will just be a catch n shoot guy initially. Potentially in the g league they are asking him to do more off the dribble and pulls ups which are a work in progress. Not sure. Would just seem odd for his shots to dip like this. It also seems to get worse when playing along side rasheed and malauch.

Malauch didn’t shoot a great fg % this game either. His 3pt stroke is looking smoother though

Solid block and rebounding numbers between Fleming and Malauch.

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Fleming shooting a better percentage from three than Brea wasn't on my bingo card.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 26, 2026 8:44 am
Fleming shooting a better percentage from three than Brea wasn't on my bingo card.
Bummed out that Brea hasn't been better. I had high hopes for him but he hasn't shown it yet. Willing to be patient and give him more time, but he'll have to make a big leap in the offseason if he wants a chance to stick. Might need to go overseas for a while.

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In elite athletics, a recurring injury like Jalen Green’s creates a feedback loop where physical vulnerability and psychological "guarding" become inseparable.

Key Points: The "Normalcy" of Re-injury
High Recurrence Rates: Hamstring injuries have one of the highest re-injury rates in the NBA, with studies showing between 16% and 38% of players suffer a setback in the same season.

The "Guard" Response: What feels like physical "tightness" is often the brain preemptively contracting the muscle to prevent what it perceives as an imminent tear.

Conditioning vs. Healing: While the muscle fibers may have healed, they often haven't regained the "elastic memory" required for NBA-level explosive movements.

Standard Protocol: His 33-game absence followed by a "precautionary" exit is a textbook example of how teams manage high-value, explosive guards.

Is it Physical or Psychological?
In Green’s case, the distinction is blurry. When a player feels "tightness" after only four minutes of play, it is usually a sign of neuromuscular guarding. The brain remembers the trauma of the initial injury and the 33 games missed. To protect the limb, the nervous system limits the muscle's range of motion, which the player feels as a physical "tug" or "knot."

1. The Physical Reality
Hamstrings are "bi-articular" muscles, meaning they cross both the hip and the knee. For a player like Green, whose game is built on sudden deceleration and verticality, the hamstring is under immense tension. Even if an MRI shows the tissue is "clean," the scar tissue or slight loss in eccentric strength makes the muscle more prone to "cramping" under game intensity. This isn't "fake" pain; it is a real physical limitation triggered by the body’s defense mechanisms.

2. The Psychological Component
The "mostly psychological" part usually refers to Kinesiophobia—the fear of movement. After multiple setbacks (China, preseason, and now January), Green is likely hyper-aware of every sensation in his right leg. In sports psychology, this is known as "internal focus." Instead of focusing on the rim or the defender, he is subconsciously monitoring the back of his leg. This mental load can actually lead to the very stiffness he’s trying to avoid, as he isn't moving with his natural, fluid mechanics.

Is This "Normal"?
Unfortunately, for his specific archetype—the high-flying, explosive "twitch" athlete—this is very normal.

The "Stop-Start" Cycle: Players like Devin Booker and Chris Paul have faced similar multi-month "hamstring sagas."

The Recovery Curve: The first 5% of recovery (getting back to walking) is easy; the last 5% (getting back to 100% sprint speed without fear) is the hardest part and where most setbacks occur.

Current Outlook
The fact that the Suns labeled his exit "precautionary" is actually a positive sign. It suggests he didn't feel a "pop," but rather a "warning" from his body. At 23 years old, the Suns are prioritizing his long-term availability over a random January road game.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Jan 26, 2026 9:36 pm
In elite athletics, a recurring injury like Jalen Green’s creates a feedback loop where physical vulnerability and psychological "guarding" become inseparable.

Key Points: The "Normalcy" of Re-injury
High Recurrence Rates: Hamstring injuries have one of the highest re-injury rates in the NBA, with studies showing between 16% and 38% of players suffer a setback in the same season.

The "Guard" Response: What feels like physical "tightness" is often the brain preemptively contracting the muscle to prevent what it perceives as an imminent tear.

Conditioning vs. Healing: While the muscle fibers may have healed, they often haven't regained the "elastic memory" required for NBA-level explosive movements.

Standard Protocol: His 33-game absence followed by a "precautionary" exit is a textbook example of how teams manage high-value, explosive guards.

Is it Physical or Psychological?
In Green’s case, the distinction is blurry. When a player feels "tightness" after only four minutes of play, it is usually a sign of neuromuscular guarding. The brain remembers the trauma of the initial injury and the 33 games missed. To protect the limb, the nervous system limits the muscle's range of motion, which the player feels as a physical "tug" or "knot."

1. The Physical Reality
Hamstrings are "bi-articular" muscles, meaning they cross both the hip and the knee. For a player like Green, whose game is built on sudden deceleration and verticality, the hamstring is under immense tension. Even if an MRI shows the tissue is "clean," the scar tissue or slight loss in eccentric strength makes the muscle more prone to "cramping" under game intensity. This isn't "fake" pain; it is a real physical limitation triggered by the body’s defense mechanisms.

2. The Psychological Component
The "mostly psychological" part usually refers to Kinesiophobia—the fear of movement. After multiple setbacks (China, preseason, and now January), Green is likely hyper-aware of every sensation in his right leg. In sports psychology, this is known as "internal focus." Instead of focusing on the rim or the defender, he is subconsciously monitoring the back of his leg. This mental load can actually lead to the very stiffness he’s trying to avoid, as he isn't moving with his natural, fluid mechanics.

Is This "Normal"?
Unfortunately, for his specific archetype—the high-flying, explosive "twitch" athlete—this is very normal.

The "Stop-Start" Cycle: Players like Devin Booker and Chris Paul have faced similar multi-month "hamstring sagas."

The Recovery Curve: The first 5% of recovery (getting back to walking) is easy; the last 5% (getting back to 100% sprint speed without fear) is the hardest part and where most setbacks occur.

Current Outlook
The fact that the Suns labeled his exit "precautionary" is actually a positive sign. It suggests he didn't feel a "pop," but rather a "warning" from his body. At 23 years old, the Suns are prioritizing his long-term availability over a random January road game.
Thanks A.I.g(Pt)! Hopefully green is back soon, but not to soon.

I popped my recent mri study I had done on my spine…. Pretty cool how good it is at breaking it down and reviewing it with you and the back and forth you can have with it over it in diagnosing a plan.

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