Suns News: Week 19 2/27 - 3/5

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Danimal wrote:
Superbone wrote:
carey wrote:
Superbone wrote:Wasn't aware of it. I might check it out. AZSports has the Empire of the Suns podcast on their app and the host is the most boring guy you can imagine.
There's several podcasts now. There's the BSotS podcast. There's the Suns Locked On podcast with Kellan Olson and Eddie House. Empire of the Suns is affiliated with KTAR and is hosted by Olson (again) and Kevin Zimmerman who has the enthusiasm of a door mouse.
Yeah, Zimmerman is the one. Good description!
there seems to be an expanding number of nba podcasts of monotone white guys who occasionally call each other 'dog' or refer to a prospect as 'my boy' in an attempt to sound interesting.
I have no idea why the starters exists. Hey we have facial hair and a guy with an accent. We could put together a better show than that
At least The Starters have energy.
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Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
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O_Gardino wrote:Watson is such a bad coach.
How so? Please explain.
I should complain less. In this case, I don't like that he has coached this team all season and doesn't know what he thinks the rookies can do. I need to see Ulis play to know if he can be effective with the ball in his hands. Watson should know that after all the hours of watching his guys practice and play. A good head coach would know by now, and would use the rest of the season for teaching, not talent evaluation.

I will say that I think Watson can be a good assistant coach.
I think you're taking it the wrong way. I think he's just saying they need more real NBA game time to evaluate where they're at. Do you disagree with that? You think we should continue to limit their minutes in favor of the veterans?
It may sound like semantics, but I think he should know damn well where the young guys are at. He should play them to help them grow, not to evaluate.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:Watson is such a bad coach.
How so? Please explain.
I should complain less. In this case, I don't like that he has coached this team all season and doesn't know what he thinks the rookies can do. I need to see Ulis play to know if he can be effective with the ball in his hands. Watson should know that after all the hours of watching his guys practice and play. A good head coach would know by now, and would use the rest of the season for teaching, not talent evaluation.

I will say that I think Watson can be a good assistant coach.
I think you're taking it the wrong way. I think he's just saying they need more real NBA game time to evaluate where they're at. Do you disagree with that? You think we should continue to limit their minutes in favor of the veterans?
It may sound like semantics, but I think he should know damn well where the young guys are at. He should play them to help them grow, not to evaluate.
Yeah, I'm not feeling you. We should be evaluating everybody all the time. That's how you get better as a team and make adjustments and figure out who plays better with who. Practice is one thing. NBA game experience is another.
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I think The Starters are pretty good, actually. They're a little unprofessional and casual, but they have a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and each member of their group seems like a genuine person and NBA fan and not somebody trying to project a certain image or be fake for the camera. Their weekly "The Drop" podcast, as well as their weekly Tuesday Twitter show, are both good watches. I avoid their NBA TV show because I think the podcast format is better for them. Subscribe to The Drop podcast on your mobile phone and listen to it every Friday when they post it. That's a good hour of NBA content.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I think The Starters are pretty good, actually. They're a little unprofessional and casual, but they have a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and each member of their group seems like a genuine person and NBA fan and not somebody trying to project a certain image or be fake for the camera. Their weekly "The Drop" podcast, as well as their weekly Tuesday Twitter show, are both good watches. I avoid their NBA TV show because I think the podcast format is better for them. Subscribe to The Drop podcast on your mobile phone and listen to it every Friday when they post it. That's a good hour of NBA content.
I'd say it's more like 35 minutes of NBA content and the rest is random stuff, but they kind of grew on me so I don't really mind.

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Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote: How so? Please explain.
I should complain less. In this case, I don't like that he has coached this team all season and doesn't know what he thinks the rookies can do. I need to see Ulis play to know if he can be effective with the ball in his hands. Watson should know that after all the hours of watching his guys practice and play. A good head coach would know by now, and would use the rest of the season for teaching, not talent evaluation.

I will say that I think Watson can be a good assistant coach.
I think you're taking it the wrong way. I think he's just saying they need more real NBA game time to evaluate where they're at. Do you disagree with that? You think we should continue to limit their minutes in favor of the veterans?
It may sound like semantics, but I think he should know damn well where the young guys are at. He should play them to help them grow, not to evaluate.
Yeah, I'm not feeling you. We should be evaluating everybody all the time. That's how you get better as a team and make adjustments and figure out who plays better with who. Practice is one thing. NBA game experience is another.
OK, good point. So why did he wait until 75% of the season was gone before committing to playing our future?

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From Fansided: Suns rookie Derrick Jones Jr Oozes Potential

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Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
I should complain less. In this case, I don't like that he has coached this team all season and doesn't know what he thinks the rookies can do. I need to see Ulis play to know if he can be effective with the ball in his hands. Watson should know that after all the hours of watching his guys practice and play. A good head coach would know by now, and would use the rest of the season for teaching, not talent evaluation.

I will say that I think Watson can be a good assistant coach.
I think you're taking it the wrong way. I think he's just saying they need more real NBA game time to evaluate where they're at. Do you disagree with that? You think we should continue to limit their minutes in favor of the veterans?
It may sound like semantics, but I think he should know damn well where the young guys are at. He should play them to help them grow, not to evaluate.
Yeah, I'm not feeling you. We should be evaluating everybody all the time. That's how you get better as a team and make adjustments and figure out who plays better with who. Practice is one thing. NBA game experience is another.
OK, good point. So why did he wait until 75% of the season was gone before committing to playing our future?
I think it's obvious that it's coming from upper management.
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Superbone wrote:
Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Superbone wrote: I think you're taking it the wrong way. I think he's just saying they need more real NBA game time to evaluate where they're at. Do you disagree with that? You think we should continue to limit their minutes in favor of the veterans?
It may sound like semantics, but I think he should know damn well where the young guys are at. He should play them to help them grow, not to evaluate.
Yeah, I'm not feeling you. We should be evaluating everybody all the time. That's how you get better as a team and make adjustments and figure out who plays better with who. Practice is one thing. NBA game experience is another.
OK, good point. So why did he wait until 75% of the season was gone before committing to playing our future?
I think it's obvious that it's coming from upper management.
Watson does not have the experience as a coach to talk as much as he does (or with the transparency he is attempting) to the media. It really shows his lack of maturity as a coach. I think that is something that he will learn.
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Split T wrote:From everything I've seen, Tyson Chandler seems to genuinely want to be here and relishes the opportunity to help out our young core. I imagine he has been fully supportive of his benching, although I hope we let him play from time to time.

I wonder if Dudley will be benched again when bender gets healthy? I'd also like to see us give Bledsoe a few games off and let knight start in his place. Preferably against the Lakers, so if he's terrible, we'll be rewarded with ping pong balls :D
I would like to see Knight increase his value for Draft day and save mileage on Bledsoes knees. It would make sense to bench Eric but maybe they are concerned that Knight will screw up our youngsters? I have not really understood this seasons strategy all year so that not new.
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Hermen wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I think The Starters are pretty good, actually. They're a little unprofessional and casual, but they have a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and each member of their group seems like a genuine person and NBA fan and not somebody trying to project a certain image or be fake for the camera. Their weekly "The Drop" podcast, as well as their weekly Tuesday Twitter show, are both good watches. I avoid their NBA TV show because I think the podcast format is better for them. Subscribe to The Drop podcast on your mobile phone and listen to it every Friday when they post it. That's a good hour of NBA content.
I'd say it's more like 35 minutes of NBA content and the rest is random stuff, but they kind of grew on me so I don't really mind.
I'll give it a listen

but by enthusiasm do people mean the annoying way the guy says 'hello sweet world' at the start
I find a lot of this stuff is just opinions, not really insight

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Danimal wrote:
Hermen wrote:I'll give it a listen

but by enthusiasm do people mean the annoying way the guy says 'hello sweet world' at the start
I find a lot of this stuff is just opinions, not really insight
They enjoy having this show and have a lot of fun on it, I guess that is meant by enthusiasm (I'm also tired of their intro :) ). But I don't think they give much insight, it's just opinions and they don't pretend otherwise. I listen to it for some daily fun on my way to work, for NBA insights I go to Lowe Post. Zach's a good listen IMO.

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https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/834860461493456897 Looks like we inquired about Ognjen Kuzmić. He has no NBA out. Maybe we were close to moving one of our C's at the deadline.
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I miss Bendy.
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It has been 3 weeks. Hopefully he is back soon. I think we will see a lot more drives to the basket out of him without all the vets to defer too.

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It would not be the end of the world if they rest Bender until the summer league. Let him heal, and work on strength and conditioning in the meantime.
Well, so much for hopes and dreams ...

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LazarusLong wrote:It would not be the end of the world if they rest Bender until the summer league. Let him heal, and work on strength and conditioning in the meantime.
True. Either way.
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I am worried about our draft pick.

We seem to be playing better since we traded Watson's boy, benched his assistant coach while sitting McDonough's mistake.
What was the reason to get rid of Monty again? Oh yeah, that guy we drafted rather than Doncic.

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I had never heard of Ognjen Kuzmic. Here's a YouTube video of him.

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He's got the moves of Iakovos Big Jake Tsakalidis

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